Thumbs Down on LC HT Pads

[fenderpicks]

Funny thing the other week I just have another meg pad fail on me after just 1 use.
I contacted meguiar and they told me that they have new improved pads that are now made in USA. So they send me replacements and I asked if I could exchange out my other brand new meg pads for the newer version, then when I finally receive it 1 out of 6 has some small defect, seems like they didn't glue the Velcro completely, like one corner is coming off because there's no glue.

Contacted them again and they send me 1 extra one for free on top of the defect.
So I received 2 and 1 of them have the same problem....
Now I'm just waiting for their email reply about this

[CM8 6MT]

Funny thing the other week I just have another meg pad fail on me after just 1 use.
I contacted meguiar and they told me that they have new improved pads that are now made in USA. So they send me replacements and I asked if I could exchange out my other brand new meg pads for the newer version, then when I finally receive it 1 out of 6 has some small defect, seems like they didn't glue the Velcro completely, like one corner is coming off because there's no glue.

Contacted them again and they send me 1 extra one for free on top of the defect.
So I received 2 and 1 of them have the same problem....
Now I'm just waiting for their email reply about this

Who are you buying them from? Direct?

[psynx]

Funny thing the other week I just have another meg pad fail on me after just 1 use.
I contacted meguiar and they told me that they have new improved pads that are now made in USA. So they send me replacements and I asked if I could exchange out my other brand new meg pads for the newer version, then when I finally receive it 1 out of 6 has some small defect, seems like they didn't glue the Velcro completely, like one corner is coming off because there's no glue.

Contacted them again and they send me 1 extra one for free on top of the defect.
So I received 2 and 1 of them have the same problem....
Now I'm just waiting for their email reply about this

hahaha you probably beating them up with your tag team rupes 15 and 21 baller! lol jk

[CWallace]

No problems here with any of my LC pads..... Hydro tech, microfibers, and flats all get great results.

[addysdaddy]

I have to really put forth some effort to separate my Hydrotechs from the LC backing plate. 5"bp and 5.5" pads. I have been nothing but pleased with all Lake Country pads, however I haven't tried Meg's since I haven't felt the need to.

What he said ! Using either the HT or Hybrid line of LC pads, I've been nothing but satisfied and have not been given a reason to try something else. If it ain't broke....

[Mike Phillips]

Just used the cyan with Meg UC. Pad cut ok but the nap is too tight to properly grab my backing plate. In fact, the pad wouldn't stay on at speed 5 on my PC DA. I'm going back to Meg pads.

Hmmm....

What backing plate do you have?

Is it old?

The hooks wear out on the hook side of hook-n-loop interfaces.

Every time you remove a pad from a backing plate you stretch the plastic hook and over time you lose attachment strength.

I cover this in my how to book on page 53

Did you purchase a new DA Polisher yet? Or are you still using the same PC and same backing plate you mention here?


http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...pc-7424xp.html

Hi folks! I have a PC 7335 that I bought from Meg 15 years ago.

Also, thinner pads rotate better on DA polishers than thicker pads. The LC Hydro, Flat and CCS are all 7/8" thin while the Meguiar's W7006, W8006 and W9006 are all at just about an 1 1/4", that's about twice as thick as the LC pad. (notice the Megs MF pads are thin?)

I've been using and teaching people to use the Megs re-branded PC since it was introduced and have a little bit of experience with it and their pads and I'm never going to knock them as I have buffed out hundreds of cars with them but like one of my articles says...

Thin is in... New Lake Country Hydro-Tech Low Profile 5 1/2 x 7/8 Inch Foam Pads


While the thick Meguiar's foam pads may rotate very well when you first start out, as they become saturated with product, and that's inevitable as you work around the car, you'll find out that wet, saturated thick pads don't rotate very well.

I talk about this in this article...

WG TSR/FG & PC 7335 Technique

With any process using a first generation PC style polisher, as soon as you notice the pad to stop rotating under pressure, one way to restore pad rotation and oscillation is to switch to a clean, dry pad. Of course this means having more clean, dry pads on hand.

When I went to buff out a 1954 Corvette for Corvette Mike I took lots of extra polishing pads because at that time the only DA style polishers available were the first generation polishers and I knew as my pads became wet with product they would stop rotating and the job would take longer. This car had an antique lacquer paint job on it so I didn't want to use rotary buffer but instead play it safe and use the PC.


I count 7 yellow polishing pads in the below picture, as one pad would quit rotating effectively I would swap it out to a clean, dry pad.

Just some food for thought...


I guess I was kind of surprised to log-in to the forum this morning and see anyone putting down Lake Country pads, they are of very high quality in my professional opinion.

I use the 5.5" all the time with all the PC "type" tools and get nothing but stellar performance out of them.

[Mike Phillips]

Look at the right hand column...






Point being, the loop side isn't the crucial side as far as wear-n-tear goes it's the hook side.

It's also important to use hook-n-loop that is matched to one another. I cover this in my how-to book also. If you're using a backing plate that came from Meguiar's that came with your Meguiar's G100 from years ago chances are good not only are the hooks worn out but it's completely possible the hook design, (besides being worn out), might not match the brand new style of loop material on the brand new pads you're using.


If you've purchased a brand new backing plate it's still possible that the hook side doesn't match the loop material and I cover this in my how-to book also.


Just some food for thought. I know the people at both Meguiar's and Lake Country and they make top shelf products. I'm telling you... and I mean this in a friendly manner, the problem isn't in the materials being used to make the pads.

[Artbuc]

Yes, I am using my old Meg backing plate. Based on your recommendation, I am going to buy a new LC backing plate. Also, as you stated, the low profile 5.5" HT pads spin so well on my old DA polisher, I don't think I need to buy a new one.

[Mike Phillips]

Yes, I am using my old Meg backing plate. Based on your recommendation, I am going to buy a new LC backing plate. Also, as you stated, the low profile 5.5" HT pads spin so well on my old DA polisher, I don't think I need to buy a new one.

And because I know there are millions of these polishers in the world I wrote an article just for the first generation Porter Cable DA Polishers...



The short how-to guide for using a DA Polisher
How to maximize the ability of the 1st Generation Porter Cable Dual Action Polishers



I'm liking we were able to get down to the root cause of the problem.

The LC backing plate works great and lasts a long time...

[Setec Astronomy]

Yes, I am using my old Meg backing plate.

OMG if it's one of those old red & white ones that came with the G100 they are terrible.