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No BS Is The Flex 3401 Really Worth It?
No BS Is The Flex 3401 Really Worth It?
So heres the situation. I have had my orginal PC 7424 since 2006 and it's the only buffer I own. Surprisingly I have done several corrections with this thing with no problem but there were always some cases where the PC just didnt have enough to do the job. Now since the VIP special is with the Flex I am highly considering buying this thing and I even got the gf's approval. I
do not want to get a rotary just yet so this SEEMS like the next best thing. I can't afford to risk damaging the paint on any of my clients cars so DA's are my best friend. Heres a couple questions I have before I really commit to buying one of these:
1. Will the Flex correct paint that the other MUCH cheaper DA's(GG, Megs) cannot?
2. The VIP kit comes with 6.5" pads. Are these a better size pad for the Flex(I know the PC works better with smaller pads)
3. Would a Griots Garage/Meguiars DA still be an upgrade from my original PC? I can save almost $200 getting this one over the Flex and I'll be able to get a bunch more stuff with it with the money I'd save.
Thanks for any help guys!
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Re: No BS Is The Flex 3401 Really Worth It?
Originally Posted by Josh@BR
1. Will the Flex correct paint that the other MUCH cheaper DA's(GG, Megs) cannot?
In a word... when comparing tools to tools, "yes".
Originally Posted by Josh@BR
2. The VIP kit comes with 6.5" pads. Are these a better size pad for the Flex(I know the PC works better with smaller pads)
With the factory backing plate, 6.5" pads and 7" pads work great.
Originally Posted by Josh@BR
3. Would a Griot's Garage/Meguiars DA still be an upgrade from my original PC?
The Griot's Garage DA Polisher has the most power of any DA Polisher I've ever used. When the pad is held flat to the surface, you cannot stop the pad from rotating with common sense pressure.
Common Sense Pressure = No more pressure than you would normally use to do correction work.
Therefore, for all practical reasons, it's like a safe version of a rotary buffer as it does a great job of maintaining pad rotation yet you can still stop the pad from rotating around more risky buffing areas or by cranking the OPM's down to a slower speed setting.
The Flex is a direct drive, forced rotating dual action polisher and you cannot stop the pad from rotating at all. So it' is more powerful but doesn't burn the paint, doesn't heat the paint up and doesn't put the swirls like a rotary buffer can instill when used with too coarse of a compound and/or compound and pad combination.
There are different "Tool Camps", you'll find loyal fans of all the tools we talk about here on the AG forum.
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Re: No BS Is The Flex 3401 Really Worth It?
Only the GG DA would be an upgrade from your old school PC, not the PCXP or Meg's G110v2, IMO. With the new Meg's DA MF system released, you can get just as good of cut with a DA compared to the Flex 3401. However, I can't stand how a traditional DA stops rotating so easily on non-flat panels. I love the forced rotation of the 3401!! If you're use to a DA, save yourself a few bucks and buy the GG DA. I have the GG DA, but still prefer using the Flex 3401.
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Re: No BS Is The Flex 3401 Really Worth It?
Great information guys thank you so much. That was just what I was looking for. Mike, I'd love to attend a hands on class if I'm ever out your way
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Re: No BS Is The Flex 3401 Really Worth It?
Originally Posted by Josh@BR
Great information guys thank you so much. That was just what I was looking for. Mike, I'd love to attend a hands on class if I'm ever out your way
There's nothing like hands-on training but they're also a lot of fun...
The next class in May will probably be broadcast live, so if it is, be sure to be on www.AutogeekOnline.net to find out where to click to in order to watch.
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Re: No BS Is The Flex 3401 Really Worth It?
Hey Josh,
I own the Flex3401, and I to received the VIP reward, and I'm gonna jump on it! After receiving my Flex for the first time, I was SOLD. I was just telling my dad last week, that I wanted to buy another Flex just in case. With the Flex your options are endless with pad/polish/wax combos. The shaking/vibration is minimal and the quality is second to none. Oh ya I'm not biased! lol
Mark makes a good point with GG/Megs MF system, in the near future I'm gonna purchase this exact combo, but if you're going to upgrade from a DA I'd suggest the Flex IMO.
I don't want it to look wet, I want it to look Soaked!
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Originally Posted by jimmyjam
but if you're going to upgrade from a DA I'd suggest the Flex IMO.
And there you go!
Lots of tool camps and they're all good...
One thing for sure, any of the Flex tools are well-built machines that will take punishment day-in, and day-out...
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Re: No BS Is The Flex 3401 Really Worth It?
I'd say Flex. I've used mine for the first time this weekend. It took me a bit of time to get used to it but once I got a hang of it, it was a blast to work with.
CORN FED STI
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Re: No BS Is The Flex 3401 Really Worth It?
Personally, I've owned the tools you've listed and the Flex is by far the best.
I've had several shoulder surgeries and the Flex gets the job done the quickest and easiest ( quickest on the paint, easiest on the shoulder).
Go for it. You won't be disappointed.
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