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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by Dubbin1
Wow that stuff isn't cheap.
i agree.
however, a few points:
you'll find you use it most at 10:1-3:1. i end up diluting it more that 10:1 for most interiors. it's so safe for everything inside and out that this dilution range is a real sweet span and the reason i think it is worth it. if you are doing a lot of road toilets and need something at 1:1 all the time, there are definitely more cost effective choices for that sort of work. but for the other uses, at dilution, i think it deserves a place on most detailer's shelves.
OR...if you are the type who details relatively clean cars, like i do. at this point, i'm doing only exotics and my own stuff, so very very rarely am i using it 1:1 and i have no need for anything else. but...i am going to see what's doin' with that Totally Awesome stuff.
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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by Dubbin1
Wow that stuff isn't cheap.
Yea, but it's extremely verstaile and great cleaning power. I used APC+ initially, switched to OPC, and never looked back. I spoke to Dr. G and he told me you can use it *un-diluted* safely on paint, interior, engine, plastic, tires, wheels, wheel wells, leather. Obviously, you don't need to use it un-diluted on everything, but that's a pretty awesome option. I also asked Dr. G if I could use OPC @ 3:1 to check my work, if there would be any filling, and he said absolutely no filling, and it would be great for that use. Bye, bye IPA wipe downs. Can you tell I like this stuff?
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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by 07 z-oh-6
Yea, but it's extremely verstaile and great cleaning power. I used APC+ initially, switched to OPC, and never looked back. I spoke to Dr. G and he told me you can use it *un-diluted* safely on paint, interior, engine, plastic, tires, wheels, wheel wells, leather. Obviously, you don't need to use it un-diluted on everything, but that's a pretty awesome option. I also asked Dr. G if I could use OPC @ 3:1 to check my work, if there would be any filling, and he said absolutely no filling, and it would be great for that use. Bye, bye IPA wipe downs. Can you tell I like this stuff?
Let us know how OPC works as a wipe down agent. Doesn't the OPC label say to avoid letting it dry on paint surfaces?
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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by Kurt_s
Let us know how OPC works as a wipe down agent. Doesn't the OPC label say to avoid letting it dry on paint surfaces?
Will do.
Yes, it does say that, but I specifically asked Dr G. if I had to rinse it off, or would it be ok wiping it off. He told me wiping it off would work just fine.
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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by 07 z-oh-6
Will do.
Yes, it does say that, but I specifically asked Dr G. if I had to rinse it off, or would it be ok wiping it off. He told me wiping it off would work just fine.
Interesting. I honestly think that we're overthinking the whole wipe down issue but it's great to find alternatives that work.
I am amazed what OPC removes where other products didn't seem to cut it. If wipe down is fine, maybe I don't have to worry so much about not rinsing down the door jambs enough and a wet towel will do it?
I also keep looking at an inexpensive steamer like the Wagnor or McCullough for the door jambs, tires and wheels. Do you use steam?
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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by Kurt_s
Interesting. I honestly think that we're overthinking the whole wipe down issue but it's great to find alternatives that work.
I am amazed what OPC removes where other products didn't seem to cut it. If wipe down is fine, maybe I don't have to worry so much about not rinsing down the door jambs enough and a wet towel will do it?
I also keep looking at an inexpensive steamer like the Wagnor or McCullough for the door jambs, tires and wheels. Do you use steam?
As far as an IPA wipedown, Dr G. told me that IPA is fine to use, but you don't want to have more than 30% alcohol in the diluted mixture. He said IPA will soften paint, therefore, resulting in easier scratching when wiped over.
I don't steam. Steaming does look very intriguing, though.
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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by 07 z-oh-6
As far as an IPA wipedown, Dr G. told me that IPA is fine to use, but you don't want to have more than 30% alcohol in the diluted mixture. He said IPA will soften paint, therefore, resulting in easier scratching when wiped over.
I don't steam. Steaming does look very intriguing, though.
No more than 30% IPA? Hmmm. Kind of surprising based on the experiences of the detailers on this forum but Mike mentioned that IPA might haze some finishes and prefers 100% mineral spirits.
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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by Kurt_s
Interesting. I honestly think that we're overthinking the whole wipe down issue but it's great to find alternatives that work.
I am amazed what OPC removes where other products didn't seem to cut it. If wipe down is fine, maybe I don't have to worry so much about not rinsing down the door jambs enough and a wet towel will do it?
I also keep looking at an inexpensive steamer like the Wagnor or McCullough for the door jambs, tires and wheels. Do you use steam?
I too was looking into steaming. Anyone have any experience with it and what machine to use?
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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by 14automobiles
I too was looking into steaming. Anyone have any experience with it and what machine to use?
Good subject for its own thread
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Re: megs apc plus-on wheels
Originally Posted by 07 z-oh-6
As far as an IPA wipedown, Dr G. told me that IPA is fine to use, but you don't want to have more than 30% alcohol in the diluted mixture. He said IPA will soften paint, therefore, resulting in easier scratching when wiped over.
I don't steam. Steaming does look very intriguing, though.
I started a thread about steam cleaners. Hope to get some advice.
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