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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    Quote Originally Posted by loudog2 View Post
    I thought that was from the KB method
    I have heard that also ... funny how durable the PC was until this method came around.

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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    Tools are meant to be used the way they're built for. It's equal to jamming a circular saw into a concrete block w/a wood blade.

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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    Quote Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek View Post
    There is indeed a washer and noted in instructions to install it. Several that have failed to use it have suggested some overheating, hot, or burning smells.
    It's supposed to put between the backing plate and the PC, right? I can't find the instruction from the manual though.
    http://www.autogeekonline.net/Downlo...4xp-manual.pdf

    Thanks!

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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    Quote Originally Posted by tktlau View Post
    It's supposed to put between the backing plate and the PC, right? I can't find the instruction from the manual though.
    http://www.autogeekonline.net/Downlo...4xp-manual.pdf

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    Yes, the washer goes between the bp and the pc spindle.

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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    Here is the link to the part.

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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    I have two articles on this topic...

    The Compression Washer

    I wrote an article about Compression Washers explaining how important it is to the function of DA Polishers here,

    Don't use your polisher without it!

    There were some further follow-up questions about compression washers so here's some more pictures and information to make sure everyone's clear on what the compression washer is, where it goes and why it's important.


    The common Compression Washer used with popular DA Polishers is about the size of a U.S. Quarter.




    One side of the compression washer is going to seat against the free floating spindle seen in the picture below.




    The other side of the compression washer will seat against the small steel attachment plate on the back of a backing plate.




    It would look like this without the backing plate in the way...






    Normally you would slide the compression washer over the threaded portion of the backing plate and then align this to the spindle on the polisher and tighten together.



    Nylon Compression Washer
    Here you can see where after tightening the compression washer has an imprint from where it was crushed during tightening.



    Fiber Compression Washer
    Here you can see where after tightening the compression washer has an imprint from where it was crushed during tightening.




    Do's and Don'ts
    • Do use a compression washer between the backing plate and the spindle.

    • Don't use a steel washer if you lose the compression washer.

    Compression washers do wear out with use, that is if you remove and replace backing plates often you're going to wear your compression washer out.



    Autogeek carries replacements...

    Lake Country Compression Washers 5-Pack





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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    The Purpose of the Compression Washer

    The compression washer performs multiple functions,


    Crushable Interface
    The compression washer provides a crushable or malleable interface between two pieces of metal that are going to see a lot of pressure from being tightened together with a wrench and my guess is a lot of punishment from the operator. I punish all my tools... so it's not a reach to think others are going to punish their's too. Add to the above mix, the violent oscillating action of the tool on the highest speed setting and add to that t-i-m-e...

    By time, I mean putting your polisher to work buffing out a car section-by-section, panel-after-panel. As Pros know and anyone that wants to get the job in a decent amount of time, when you start buffing out a car you have to keep the tool running and buffing on paint. There's no breaks. That's time of endured punishment.

    Point being is you want and need the crushable interface between two pieces of metal on an electric tool capable of running at high OPM's.


    Spacer
    They also act as an actual spacer between the arbor or stud seat where there are the raised heads of a type of rivet or brad that anchors the arbor base to the the backing plate and the threaded portion of the Free Rotating Spindle Bearing Assembly.


    Free Rotating Spindle Bearing Assembly




    Here you can see a compression washer seated at the base or seat of the 5/16" arbor or stud where it's attached into the backing plate surrounded by the raised heads of the rivets or attachment anchors.




    So keep track of both the compression washer and the rubber nut and don't use your DA Polisher, be it a Porter Cable, Meguiar's or Griot's without it.



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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    Here's the other article...

    Don't use your polisher without it!


    That is... the Compression Washer



    If you don't use a compression washer, the rivets on the backing plate attachment base will come into contact with the counterweight assembly on your DA Polisher.

    Damage caused by not using the Compression Washer



    Damaged and Gouged Metal
    The rivets have gouged the metal because the compression washer was left off. Not only does it gouge the metal it will usually make a horrible noise and that should be your first clue to turn the polisher off and inspect for issues.




    Treat the compression washer like GOLD. Don't lose it.


    Keep the little rubber nut to lock it into place when not using that backing plate. It's probably more likely you'll own more backing plates into the future than less likely.

    The Rubber Nut - Keeps the Compression Washer from getting lost and protects the threads when the backing plate is not in use.


    I have scads of backing plates in drawer in the studio and it's nice reaching for a backing plate and having the spacer washer intact with the backing plate.

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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    one more...

    Tip: Rubber Nut to protect threads and safeguard compression washer

    When you purchase a backing plate for your DA Polisher it comes with a Compression Washer held in place with a Rubber Nut.

    Here's a tip, when using your backing plate keep the rubber nut in a safe place for use later.

    The Rubber Nut does two things,
    • Protects the threads on the backing plate when the backing plate is not in use.

    • Holds the Compression Washer in place so it does not get lost when the backing plate is not in use.






    Backing Plates on Autogeek.net

    Lake Country 5" DA Backing Plate

    Lake Country 3" DA Backing Plate

    Lake Country 3.5 " DA Backing Plate

    Lake Country 6" DA Backing Plate

    Meguiars W67DA G110 DA Polisher 5 inch Backing Plate

    The Black Dual Action 5 Inch HD Backing Plate

    Dual Action 6 Inch HD Backing Plate

    Meguiars W68DA Dual Action Backing Plate

    3M Hook-It 5 Inch Dual Action Backing Plate - 5775

    3M Hook-It 6 Inch Dual Action Backing Plate - 5776



    Related articles...

    The Compression Washer

    Don't use your polisher without it!

    5 inch Backing Plates on Meguiar's, Griot's and Porter Cable DA Polishers





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    Re: washer on PC 7424

    Thanks Mike! I didn't know that Autogeek sold the washers. I am going to pick some up soon.
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