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08-27-2014, 05:01 PM
#221
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Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase
Originally Posted by RaskyR1
I've actually had several clients ask what the product cost me and I have never had an issue sharing it with them. I believe the application time and benefits of the coatings I offer are well worth the MAP pricing.
I am the same..... I even go so far as to tell them that they are more then welcomed to let me do the polishing (and I will account for my Hrs x (shop price)= $$) and they can apply the product themselves (consumer grade). If they want the PRO version then I will again account for my Hrs x (shop price) + cost of the product.
It never fails that they will change their mind very rapidly when they hear that a double Erasor wipe down (or a DP coating prep + Erasor) + application of the product is going to take them a few hours. If shop time is $50/hr and product is $60, and you are looking at 2 hrs of work then..... well, they can do the math. Please note that this is for the consumer grade. PRO grade is more expensive and also demands an "exclusivity" premium. I will show them the pricing for the consumer grade all day and will even assist them in purchasing it, but I spin myself out of telling them the PRO cost. In all, I have had ZERO customer take me up on my offer to coat it themselves. Even my non-coated compoundings end with me putting the sealant/wax on it, regardless of the open offer to let them use my shop and my products..... LOL!
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08-27-2014, 05:48 PM
#222
Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase
Originally Posted by FUNX725
•IMHO:
-It's not the "Coating manufacturers" proper place to tell detailers what their minimum application price points of their Coatings---or any other car-care product----should be.
But according to Setec, with Opticoat, you're giving them a top up of clearcoat ('cos it's PERMANENT) so you can justify the charge as a light respray and refinish
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08-27-2014, 06:28 PM
#223
Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase
Permanent or not, its 5 years since my car on OC Pro. I am just gonna test it as long as possible before I sell it off.
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08-27-2014, 07:37 PM
#224
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Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase
Originally Posted by kaanage
PERMANENT
^^^ PRETTY^^^
Bob
"Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
~Joaquin de Setanti
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08-27-2014, 08:20 PM
#225
Super Member
Originally Posted by ZeroSP
Permanent or not, its 5 years since my car on OC Pro. I am just gonna test it as long as possible before I sell it off.
That's great durability. I'm curious how you maintain it and if it's ever been "topped" with other wax/sealants over the last 60 months.
Sent from my N9810 using AG Online
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08-27-2014, 09:21 PM
#226
Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase
Originally Posted by Nicholas@Autowerx
That's great durability. I'm curious how you maintain it and if it's ever been "topped" with other wax/sealants over the last 60 months.
Sent from my N9810 using AG Online
This thread started by zerosp may provide some insight:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...ro-reload.html
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08-28-2014, 11:15 AM
#227
Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase
Originally Posted by Nicholas@Autowerx
That's great durability. I'm curious how you maintain it and if it's ever been "topped" with other wax/sealants over the last 60 months.
Sent from my N9810 using AG Online
Weekly wash with ONR or Opt Car Wash (I have used some other shampoo as well), clay it once in a year.
Wiped down with OID all these while, but I am running out therefore I am looking for alternatives which the member below posted the link.
In the end, I find out there is not much point for me to put a good sealant top of it, I went with UWW+ wipe down.
Originally Posted by allenk4
Yes, but all the while just OID... And now it is UWW+
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08-28-2014, 11:18 AM
#228
Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase
Originally Posted by Nicholas@Autowerx
That's great durability. I'm curious how you maintain it and if it's ever been "topped" with other wax/sealants over the last 60 months.
Sent from my N9810 using AG Online
Specifically, you may want to take a look at this
Review: 4.5 years of Opti Coat (Update) with videos
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08-28-2014, 12:04 PM
#229
Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase
Kinda bummed I never got a chance to try 2.0. Just ordered one syringe off of eBay to try it at least once. Should be here next week.
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08-28-2014, 12:41 PM
#230
Super Member
Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase
Here is my thought, and I wonder why most of these companies do not do this. I know many of us have typed (since we are not speaking) our concerns over price and order minimums.
Why can the manufacturer and distributors go to the likely candidates for "Pro Level" Installer status and make that detailer go thru training? There could be a fee even, but that person would need to go thru application training and also sales training to know what they can and cannot tell the client. Then they would receive a certificate of training completion. Then you buy directly from the distributor, but there are no minimums.
I think that would be a great way to keep the talented part time exclusive detailers in the loop without a penalization for wanting to use a great product. We can all agree that OC is a great product, if not, no one would be worrying too much about this.
Just my $.02
HUMP
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