Detail shop put swirls and halograms in my Black sapphire BMW

**fanman36** · 09-26-2011, 09:47 PM

A detail shop here in Houston detailed my black sapphire bmw and left swirls and some mild halograms in the paint. I tried using a DA and a orange pad and Klasse AIO but that did not get the job done. Can someone lead me in the right directio to get my paint back to flawless

**Twister** · 09-26-2011, 10:09 PM

You need something with more aggressive than Klasse AIO. A lot of people like Megs 105/205 combo. I peronally like Menzerna products and use SIP a lot but I think 105 is more aggressive

**Kristopher1129** · 09-26-2011, 10:58 PM

I would test a spot with some 205 and a white pad, and see how it goes. You want to avoid compound if at all possible being that this "detail" shop possibly already used compound, or a cutting pad on your paint.

**slickooz** · 09-26-2011, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Twister

You need something with more aggressive than Klasse AIO. A lot of people like Megs 105/205 combo. I peronally like Menzerna products and use SIP a lot but I think 105 is more aggressive

Yeah try M105/205 to see if it will remove the holograms.

Originally Posted by Kristopher1129

I would test a spot with some 205 and a white pad, and see how it goes. You want to avoid compound if at all possible being that this "detail" shop possibly already used compound, or a cutting pad on your paint.

If M205 doesn't work you might need to use M105 to remove the holograms.

If you got your own DA, why did you bring your car to a detail shop?

**fanman36** · 09-27-2011, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by slickooz

Yeah try M105/205 to see if it will remove the holograms.

If M205 doesn't work you might need to use M105 to remove the holograms.

If you got your own DA, why did you bring your car to a detail shop?

being lazy

**sal329** · 09-27-2011, 06:52 AM

BMW black is very finicky. A good variety of pads and polishes on hand will be needed. What do you have available to you?

**shoeless89** · 09-27-2011, 07:26 AM

Klasse AIO is a chemical cleaner so it won't remove swirls or holograms. You either need an AIO with abrasives in it or a compound. I would try Meguiar's 105 or 205 or Menzerna SIP

**Flannigan** · 09-27-2011, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by sal329

BMW black is very finicky. A good variety of pads and polishes on hand will be needed. What do you have available to you?

BMW black is always hard to correct, but mars if you look at it for too long. I would assume that you will need M105 and a surbuf/mf cutting pad to remove the swirls and holograms. After that you should be able to clean up the rest of the marring with a polishing pad like a tangerine HT pad or white flat pad with m205.

Every so often m205 won't finish down perfect on black (especially a PITA black like BMW) so you may need to do a step with a finishing polish (Po85rd) and a finish pad (black/red/gold). Hope that helps!

Mike Phillips · 09-27-2011, 07:28 AM

Sorry to hear of the damage done... for all the lurkers and forum members that will read this into the future, learn a lesson from the story told here and before allowing anyone to "touch" your car's precious, thin paint, research them and their work, maybe ask a few questions as to the type of products, pads and tools they use and if nothing else, see if they even know what they're talking about.

The most knowledgeable detailers are detailers that hang out on discussion forums like this one as this is where you learn about new products, tools and techniques that work.

For future readers...

The story of 3 H's - Horrendous, Horror Story and Hack Detailers...

For the OP, check out these two threads, chances are good the swirls are shallow and should buff out easy...

Wolfgang Twins

Lessons I learned from a Black 2009 BMW 550i

**fanman36** · 09-27-2011, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek

Sorry to hear of the damage done... for all the lurkers and forum members that will read this into the future, learn a lesson from the story told here and before allowing anyone to "touch" your car's precious, thin paint, research them and their work, maybe ask a few questions as to the type of products, pads and tools they use and if nothing else, see if they even know what they're talking about.

The most knowledgeable detailers are detailers that hang out on discussion forums like this one as this is where you learn about new products, tools and techniques that work.

For future readers...

The story of 3 H's - Horrendous, Horror Story and Hack Detailers...

For the OP, check out these two threads, chances are good the swirls are shallow and should buff out easy...

Wolfgang Twins

Lessons I learned from a Black 2009 BMW 550i

My car is not that bad like the 2009 BMW. The swirls are very light. Which one is better Wolfgang twins or the meguiars combo and what pads are best to use the orange or the white.