Curing Time

**ScottB** · 04-15-2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by JeffW

Do you mean DOESN'T seem to harm it? Hope that's what you mean.

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Originally Posted by JeffW

Anyway, gots 5 or 6 layers of UPP on my daily driver (just finishing let it cure) and want to add Natty's Blue or P21S on multiple layers.

How long would you suggest letting the WAX cure before adding more layers ?(the 1st I'll do back-to-back anyway to assure entire coverage)

There is a point of diminishing returns in waxing and sealing. Based on my personal assessment it appears to be 2-3 layers. Carnaubas dont really need alot of curing time as they transfer the oils and other protection almost immediately. Again more than one level of carnauba will probably do not better than the first and might be considered wasted product. The real benefit in two layers of carnauba is to make sure you didnt miss a spot (even coverage)

**JeffW** · 04-15-2006, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek

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There is a point of diminishing returns in waxing and sealing. Based on my personal assessment it appears to be 2-3 layers. Carnaubas dont really need alot of curing time as they transfer the oils and other protection almost immediately. Again more than one level of carnauba will probably do not better than the first and might be considered wasted product. The real benefit in two layers of carnauba is to make sure you didnt miss a spot (even coverage)

To think of all the wasted wax on my wife's Liberty !!! Thanks!

**Kelso** · 04-15-2006, 08:03 PM

ok this is a dumb question buti mainly use carnaubas so i never looked into curing time. ive never seen curing defined so somebody clear up the fuzziness. what is curing? do you just have to wait before applying another coat? can you drive around between coats if you keep the car clean? or do you have to leave the dried product on the vehicle in the shade or whatever for like 12 hours befor eyou remove it?

**ScottB** · 04-15-2006, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Kelso

ok this is a dumb question buti mainly use carnaubas so i never looked into curing time. ive never seen curing defined so somebody clear up the fuzziness. what is curing? do you just have to wait before applying another coat? can you drive around between coats if you keep the car clean? or do you have to leave the dried product on the vehicle in the shade or whatever for like 12 hours befor eyou remove it?

curing is essentially the process of a sealant drying completely. The polymers and molecules crosslink, and well seal to the paint and each other. You can do numerous things to speed the process (using sun and heat) but mostly want to keep it away from water. Remember you have already wiped off the excess and a small unseen sacrifical layer is there to protect clearcoat, this is what is still crosslinking.

You can almost see if change, the gloss seems deeper and the reflective nature gets brighter. I suppose you could drive around but dont wash or QD for 12 hours for best effect. Some sealant manufacturers (Z, Duragloss) offer a catalyst that speeds the curing process so that multiple coats can be done in succession. I have always wondered how well these curing agents would work with other sealants

**Kelso** · 04-15-2006, 10:14 PM

yea i know zaino has the flash cure or whatever... i doubt it would work well with others becomes it seems like zaino works best with zaino and thats about it. never used it but thats the feeling i get from their site and people on other forums

**ewiesner** · 04-27-2006, 09:22 AM

So...what happens if the car gets wet before the product is completely cured? I just finished applying Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant this morning and now I see it supposed to rain this afternoon. I can put it in the garage, but who knows I may have to run an errand or two later on.

**BILL** · 05-02-2006, 05:34 PM

how do you like the wolfgang DPS??

THANKS........

**Surfer** · 05-02-2006, 05:55 PM

Is there a certain cure time for polishes, or say right after I finish with Optimum Polish can I go right to AIO, and then Poorboy's EX-P? And what about EX-P, doesn't anybody know about how long it takes to cure untill I can put another coat on and then finish with Natty's Blue? If I apply in the garage, would backing the truck back out into the sun help bake/set EX-P faster?

**BILL** · 05-02-2006, 05:58 PM

I play if safe with my own car and wait 24 hours on everything, im in no rush......

**ScottB** · 05-02-2006, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Surfer

Is there a certain cure time for polishes, or say right after I finish with Optimum Polish can I go right to AIO, and then Poorboy's EX-P? And what about EX-P, doesn't anybody know about how long it takes to cure untill I can put another coat on and then finish with Natty's Blue? If I apply in the garage, would backing the truck back out into the sun help bake/set EX-P faster?

run of thumb for curing of sealants is around 12-24 hours. The sun will certainly help with curing, but also makes any missed spots a real bugger at getting off later. (hint: use a little more of the same product and immediately buff off, always takes the missed area away)