CONFUSED - Induced Holograms With A DA?!?!

[Mike Phillips]

Just to note, while most online discussions about Audi's talk about how HARD the paint is, I've worked on some Audi's with paint as soft as butter. Even wrote an article about it here...


Audi Soft Paint - Making Generalizations about Hardness and Softness





Sometimes, finishing with a cleaner/wax is a viable option...

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

DA's do not create holograms even with improper technique... They can leave hazing behind but not holograms

Additonally: Holograms are not the result of heat.

[Y2KSVT]

I can understand not wanting to believe the Cyclo polisher could be the issue, but you have to start somewhere. If you don't have another DA polisher to try out, maybe polishing a small area by hand so you can rule out the 105/205 polishes. There are lots of variables so you've got to start somewhere. I'd try to change one of those variables at a time so you can better assess what the issue was. So instead of switching polishers, pads, polishes AND technique, maybe change one of them at a time and inspect the results. Good luck!

[sulla]

J

If the above does't fix the problem then I would say the paint is incredibly soft and I would try a rotary buffer at slow speeds with the last combo listed above and then inspect.

Mike are you trying to say that rotary buffer at slow speeds is actually a less aggresive method compared to DA/Finishing pad ? Why is this a better approach ?

[Mike Phillips]

Mike are you trying to say that rotary buffer at slow speeds is actually a less aggresive method compared to DA/Finishing pad ? Why is this a better approach ?

IF you're using a Fine Cut Polish to an Ultra Fine Cut Polish wit a soft finishing pad and light pressure that's pretty non-aggressive.

Sometimes I just know what's worked for me...

Did you read the link I included and was the context for my post about the soft paint on the Audi's?


Audi Soft Paint - Making Generalizations about Hardness and Softness

[RaskyR1]

+1 to what Mike said on the SMAT polishes. Anytime I've had M205 leave micro marring (DA haze) in the paint I'm working on, Menzerna polishes have always finished down well.

[arack]

DA's do not create holograms even with improper technique... They can leave hazing behind but not holograms

Additonally: Holograms are not the result of heat.

Thanks for enlightening everybody with your wealth of information. What is your solutions to this problem mentioned by the original poster in the thread?

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

Thanks for enlightening everybody with your wealth of information. What is your solutions to this problem mentioned by the original poster in the thread?

No problem, you are most welcome.

I would suggest a fine DAT polish, very fine pad ( red or black) and a DA.

BUT the point of my original post is that he did not create the holos with a cyclo so why would he be on the hook to fix them

[Mike Phillips]

DA's do not create holograms even with improper technique... They can leave hazing behind but not holograms

Additionally: Holograms are not the result of heat.

I agree, in fact I pointed this out also in my previous post....

Now follow me on this...

A DA Polisher, which is what a Cyclo Polisher is, can leave trails mimicking the pattern or direction the polisher was moved over the paint, these are trails of haze, not actual scratches inflicted like a rotary buffer will inflict as shown in the pictures above.

If the swirls you're seeing in this black Ford F650, (which is a MONSTER of a truck), look like the rotary buffer swirls then you did not do it.

IF the swirls look like a pattern of haze in the paint then you likely did do it and my guess is the paint is incredibly soft.

And here...

No... holograms are scratches and they are caused by the abrasives being moved over the paint surface.

Just to note, heat is an unwanted by-product in the buffing process. I talked about this in the 1965 Mustang Wetsanding video last night.

And by coincidence, shared this in the live broadcast last night...


1965 Mustang GT Fastback - Wetsanding - Live Broadcast

[Mike Phillips]

Love how the people on this forum are always willing to help see others to success...

Can't wait to see how Anthony remedies this...