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    foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia

    A regular part of car maintenance is something as simple as a car wash. While you are driving around, take a look at how many people have extremely dirty cars. It is very surprising that many people do not keep up with this simple maintenance technique. A car is an investment for many people, and yet some people will not even get their car washed. A car wash can be done your self or train your helpers to do it. Having it done by someone else should not cost you more than a paint work ......

    and it will definately cost more than a paint work when you send it to a road side car wash.....it cheap quick & clean

    a well detailed car .....


    and our car paint suppose to last as long as your car lasting...
    ..


    3 months later



    how can it became worn out & damaged in just 90 days (once a week wash - while having breakfast on sat morning)

    nice foam bubble aka SNOW WASH Boss



    it must be winter - snow flakes


    good - do you not know, how do they magically clean up yr white car so white...i happen to wait for fellow forumer & shock that they did it so openly



    sabun fab - aka powder clothing detergent



    nicely massage on to the paint - with a sponge that never wash or rinse (the fume when they clean the wheel - suffocates me while standing beside it taking pics)

    the first 2 thing:-
    driver still sitting in the car with running engine (under sunny day)
    the hood is hot & the wheel is hotter & suddenly comes SNOW...danger to wearing out both car paint coat & wheels coat....brakes may get heat up to 200-300 degree Celsius
    splashes of jet sprayed water & aggressive cleaner - help to shorten the life spent



    more shocking - some medium & expensive car even lining up ...for a wash like these



    Using Dish washing liquid like glo or cleanmaid is bad as because they dry out our car's paint. If you want to remove old wax you should use a regularly ....and it may cause damaged your clear coat

    [COLOR="rgb(0, 0, 0)"]There 2 great danger -in using a wrong detergent for a car wash[/COLOR]

    a very good article - A deadly rinse: The dangers of hydrofluoric acid
    Do its cleaning virtues outweigh its many risks?
    The brittle, discoloured fingernails will give away any detailer who's been using an HF solution - without protective gloves - use in cleaning the car , engine or wheels. HF is not like other highly corrosive acids. Mix it with equal parts of water (as many overzealous operators ), spill a little on your unprotected hand and you won't even feel any pain as it begins to burn through your skin, searching for the calcium in your bones.

    many of such chemical found in these snow wash foam, as widely premixes in a 30-40-gallon drum and run through a air pressure pump, as a pre-rinse. although it has the ability to remove loose traces of foam polish wax, shine glass and chrome, reduce streaking and neutralize the pH on vehicles that have just been through an alkaline pre-soak and washed with reclaim water.

    imagine Without the agitation or friction of brushes, cloth or other type of physical contact, many touchless operators feel that the only way to loosen road film is to use a pre-soak that has been spiked with a healthy dose of hydrofluoric acid.

    if used in Full-strength, it is used to etch glass. In a dilute solution, it removes acid rain spots from windshields and puts a showroom-like shine on glass.

    HF burn covering less than 2 percent of your body can kill you. And you probably won't even know you're in danger until it's too late.

    another chemical found in these detergent is SLS

    So why is a dangerous chemical like sodium laureth sulfate used in our car shampoos?

    The answer is simple - it is cheap. The sodium laureth sulfate found in most of our cleaners is exactly the same as you would find in a car wash or even a garage, where it is used to degrease car engines.

    In the same way as it dissolves the grease on car engines, SLES also dissolves the oils on your skin, which can cause a drying effect. It is also well documented that it denatures skin proteins, which causes not only irritation, but also allows environmental contaminants easier access to the lower, sensitive layers of the skin.


    conclusion
    In the end it can cause more damage than what you were trying to clean in the first place. This means no laundry detergent for bubble bath.


    Quote Originally Posted by bmw7833 View Post
    I always shock to see the owners let the workers to wash their car while the disc brake still hot with non stop running engine.
    yupp...

    the danger & warning - recommended by all car care company - never wash yr car under the sun & hot (as the soap dries up before you can have enough time to rinse off & if it is done under the sun that cause water marks too) water marks usually can only be corrected by polishing off or compounding

    you are truly right - but "no body cares for your car better than you " - many of such place does good washes - but the fact remain
    when we drive out our vehicle for a wash , we always wanted it to be as quickly as possible- hardly we have time to wait to cool down our ride - both body paint & wheels is hot - & imagine the splashes of cold water - with power pressure jet spray on yr engine hood & wheels - is the both extreme .... why risking our ride to this harsh environment & is not good long term

    back at home - we take leisure to do it, to me this is therapeutic, i love to splash water \
    our paint is just 2 mil of an micron thick (as thick as a cigarette wrapper) this clear coat is very thin & must handle with care - esp bimmers...cos when this fail our paint will be damaged...


    here is some of the common clear coat failure - mostly to do with road side car wash

    world map


    closer pic



    my friend send his car regularly






    prevention is always better than cure

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    Re: foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia

    Yeah when I use to go to school, I would always pass by this car washing place. And I would sometimes see very nice cars there. I don't get why so many people pay 30 dollar for a bad wash.

    These pics should def make people more aware of how much damage can be done in matter of months. Thanks for sharing!

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    Re: foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia

    Good read.

    Our old business owner insisted on using an aluminium brightener containing 1% HF & ~10% sulfuric acid for wheels, bullbars, sidesteps, aluminium trays etc...used it from an air gun so it was all atomised & carried everywhere with the wind. The couple of days I was there before we took over I was nearly choking on the fumes & coughing at night. I used it for a couple of days with just a pressure pack & the fumes were much better but the stuff is just plain nasty. I gave up using it based on just that...didn't really even think of reading up on it so I'm relieved to know I made the right choice!

    What scares me is he used it daily for close to 4 years with no breathing protection or gloves.

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    Re: foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia


    Good read


    with all due respect, I have to disagree with the statements on Sodium Laureth Sulfate. Sodium Laureth Sulfate (or sodium lauryl ether sulfate) is used in households all over the world. SLS is a common ingredient in everyday products such as, but not limited to; toothpaste, body/hand soap, hair shampoo, laundry detergent, dish soap, and even car wash soap/shampoo. SLS is present in some of Meguiars car soaps/shampoo's, I just looked at some of the MSDS'.

    I don't believe for a minute, that the SLS that is present in modern car soaps will come even remotely close to harming modern clear coat paints. SLS is the main ingredient in dish soap, which I use everyday, my hands are fine

    SLS is the very first ingredient (next to water) in bubble bath.










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    Re: foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fly bye View Post
    Good read


    with all due respect, I have to disagree with the statements on Sodium Laureth Sulfate. Sodium Laureth Sulfate (or sodium lauryl ether sulfate) is used in households all over the world. SLS is a common ingredient in everyday products such as, but not limited to; toothpaste, body/hand soap, hair shampoo, laundry detergent, dish soap, and even car wash soap/shampoo. SLS is present in some of Meguiars car soaps/shampoo's, I just looked at some of the MSDS'.
    No worries ,,,,good to hear your view -

    Quote Originally Posted by apg39 View Post
    Good read.

    Our old business owner insisted on using an aluminium brightener containing 1% HF & ~10% sulfuric acid for wheels, bullbars, sidesteps, aluminium trays etc...used it from an air gun so it was all atomised & carried everywhere with the wind. The couple of days I was there before we took over I was nearly choking on the fumes & coughing at night. I used it for a couple of days with just a pressure pack & the fumes were much better but the stuff is just plain nasty. I gave up using it based on just that...didn't really even think of reading up on it so I'm relieved to know I made the right choice!

    What scares me is he used it daily for close to 4 years with no breathing protection or gloves.
    wow ..that is taking too much of risk

    Quote Originally Posted by slickooz View Post
    Yeah when I use to go to school, I would always pass by this car washing place. And I would sometimes see very nice cars there. I don't get why so many people pay 30 dollar for a bad wash.

    These pics should def make people more aware of how much damage can be done in matter of months. Thanks for sharing!
    yupp....thanks to all yr comment, appreciate

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    Re: foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia

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    Re: foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    That's funny...



    LOL

    i had a good laugh after you pointed this

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    Re: foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia

    Funniest thread of the month k.c. I almost fell out of my chair
    “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

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    Re: foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    That's funny...


    That was Great.

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    Re: foam wash by road side car wash in malaysia

    Maybe a wash like that would work great on Fred Flinstone's car but on cc and paint? Come on people, have a little bit of common sense....after all, in most cases a car is the worst investment you will ever make. You every day driver that most people drive depreciates as soon as you drive off of the lot. Undiluted laundry powder soap on paint-hink about how things work and take care of your "investment" so it will last. Good grief!

    Great post by the way, always love to read what you have to say. Love the show n shines as well. You actually sold me on Powerclean and ONR by the way. Ordered and now waiting. Thanks buddy.

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