Review: Wolfgang vs. Blackfire

[TroyScherer]

This is a copy and paste of a test I am doing and documenting over on AF....


**Date: 02-05-2012**

The Concept:
The test bed for this shootout is the hood of a Black 2005 Chevy Colorado. The truck doesn’t get driven much but it does sit outside 24/7. Because of this I thought it would be a good test subject to see the everyday effect on these products in winter conditions here in Ohio. I realize this is not a comprehensive test as I am not testing any vertical surfaces. But in my experience the vertical surfaces will show wear much quicker and the road salt simply destroys almost any LSP. I was simply looking for a large flat surface that would be easy for me to photograph and document at this time.



The Conditions:

Temp: 42*
Humidity: 49%



The Products:


BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection
BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection is a premium paint sealant designed for the perfectionist. It creates an extremely slick finish and incredible depth with a revolutionary blend of three incredible polymers. Sourced from Germany and Switzerland, these polymers have a protective quality and depth of gloss that surpassed all others tested. BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection refracts light, similar to a diamond, to create a vibrant, super slippery, head-turning finish.

BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun
BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste is a hand-poured, premium carnauba wax that combines a mile-deep shimmering gloss with high tech Wet Diamond polymers. It brings out the best in all paint finishes with a combination of super-refined carnauba wax blended with nourishing oils and German polymers. This wax creates incredible depth of shine on all paint colors with a hard, protective barrier to the elements. BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax is perfect on top of Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection or by itself. It glimmers with depth either way!

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 will alter your perceptions of paint sealants forever. The glossy, liquid-like shimmer enhances all types and colors of paint. No other synthetic wax or paint sealant gives your vehicle the gloss, the depth, and the protection of Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0. Now with fortified polymer technology, Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 is simply the best paint sealant you’ll ever use.

Wolfgang Füzion Estate Wax
Wolfgang Füzion Estate Wax is a hand-crafted blend of carnauba wax, German Super Polymers, and proprietary ingredients that yield unequaled shine and protection. Our unique formula fuses the best attributes of carnauba wax and paint sealants to create the ultimate car wax. Wolfgang Füzion Estate Wax has been enhanced with more glossifiers for a more intense wet look and improved slickness.



Prep Work:
This truck was wearing 3 coats for BF AFPP to the best of my knowledge. They were applied a little over 2 months ago but the truck hasn’t been driven more than 100 miles and was washed only once. It has basically set outside 24/7 without being moved. The way it is parked has it facing the sun for the entire day.

I began by mixing up my wash solution which was some Megs soap and some APC to have everything ready as it was cold out. I started the wash process by spraying down the hood with a lite APC to begin the stripping process and proceeded to wash it the 1st time.


I then rinsed it down to check for any beading. The beading wash definitely diminished but I wanted it totally clean for this test.


I repeated the original steps by spraying down the hood with a lite APC and re-washing. This time the beading was gone… Just what I wanted to see.


I then dried the hood using a waffle weave towel and the let it set for another 20 minutes to ensure that everything was dry. During this time I planned out how I wanted to layout my testing. I choose to begin by laying out 4 sections initially instead of doing 2 and then sectioning those sections off after the sealant was applied. This would allow for a good separation between the test sections with an un-protected line in both directions.



The Test Layout:
Back Left: WG DGPS & Füzion
Front Left: WG DGPS

Back Right: BF AFPP & Midnight Sun
Front Right: BF AFPP






Test 1:

WG DGPS vs. BF AFPP

My original idea was to test out 2 of the easiest to use best looking sealants on the market. I had never used WG DGPS before but had heard that it was very slick and had a great look to it. That sounded like a good competitor to BF AFPP to me.

• - Once the hood was stripped clean and was dry I went ahead and applied each sealant to it respective test section using a clean foam applicator for each.
• - Both sealants were very easy to apply thin and evenly. Both are much easier to use then the likes of Klasse SG which is one of my favorites.
• - I would have to give the ease of use to the BF AFPP though as it was just slightly easier to use then the WG DGPS.
• - I then let them have for 30 minutes as I took a break.
• - Removal on both was a breeze. But I would have to give the slightest edge to the BF AFPP. This may be due to my lack of experience with WG DGPS but I have always found BF AFPP to be supper easy to remove when applied properly.
• - I then left them cure for 1 hour before feeling for slickness and trying to get pictures.
• - I did take so photos but I couldn’t capture any of the very subtle differences.
• - They both are very slick and wet looking with the WG DGPS having the slightest nuba look to it.
• - In terms of slickness I would say BF AFPP was the slicker of the two.

Test 2:

WG DGPS & Füzion vs. BF AFPP & Midnight Sun

Building off my original idea of testing the sealants I decided to add in a test of their matching waxes to see how the looks, durability, slickness, and dust attraction properties compared. WG Füzion has been my favorite paste wax for quite a while now so the BFMS has so very tough competition IMO.

• - After the sealants were left to cure for 1 hour I came back to continue this test. I realize 1 hour is not an ideal cure time but it is somewhat realistic in the fact that we don’t always have a next day or 24 hours to wait.
• - Both waxes were super easy to apply thin and evenly. Surprisingly for me the BFMS was ever so slightly easier to apply. (This may be due to the temperature but for this testing it is what it is.)
• - Both waxes are WOWO waxes but I have found that with Füzion I like to let it haze for 10 minutes or so. For this test I applied both waxes using a clean foam applicator for each and let them each set for about 5 minutes due to the temperature.
• - Both waxes were easy to remove. IMO they were both very similar in removal… In my mind BFMS may have been ever so slightly easier but that may be due to how easy all the other BF stuff had gone till this point.
• - Once again a picture is just unable to get across any differences in these 2 waxes IMO.
• - After approx. 20 min the Füzion felt much slicker than the BFMS but not as slick as the sections with just sealant.

I am planning on getting a few beading picture in the next day or so and want to keep this thread updated as I continue this test throughout the winter and spring. Any and all comments and questions are welcome.

[TroyScherer]

**Date: 02-07-2012**
As promised here is my first update.

First off we have a few shots of the dust & contamination collection. I am actually a little surprised as I anticipated the Sealants to have little to no dust attraction.




Here we have the testing layout. I cheated a little here and used the mist setting on my nozzle to get everything about the same. Because of using the misting method the general beading at this point was almost identical.



Here are a few true beading / sheeting shots as I used the hose on it.





And Finally I have a video of my playing with the hose and using the Master Blaster to dry it off.

Wet:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX0HkjjyQ1g]Playing with the Water[/video]

Dry:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EykhuRTVRfk] Playing with the MasterBlaster [/video]

[TroyScherer]

**Date: 02-18-2012**
2 Week Update:

Well its not much but here is my 2 week update. The truck has not been driven since the products were applied 2 weeks ago. We have had a mix of rain, snow, and sun. It has been a weird winter here so far.


The Conditions:
Temp: 42*F
Humidity: 45%
Wind: 15 mph
Dew Point: 22*F


The Products:
Wash Mitt: Cobra Green Micro-Chenille Wash Mitt
Wash Media: Chemical Guys Maxi Suds II

I want to make sure that my wash soap doesn't add to or alter the outcome for this testing. So I have decided for this update to use Chemical Guys Maxi Suds II as it doesn't have any gloss enhancers or added protection. I am actually to the point where I am beginning to prefer soaps with no additives to get a truer scenes of what I am using as my LSP.

I will also be using the 2BM with 2 Grit Guards per bucket as my standard wash. In the winter here we have a lot of sand and grit that attaches to the vehicles so I use a 2 Grit Guard setup as added insurance.


Pics:

Beading


Sheeting




All in all everything is just like I expected. The beading on everything is still looking good and it sheet water nicely as well. Look for another update in a few weeks.

[TroyScherer]

**Date: 03-03-2012**
**Update**


Well it has been another 2 weeks and I figured I should do another update on the progress of this test.
The truck has been driven about 40 miles in the past 2 weeks. Mostly in town back and forth to school. But I did take it to work one day. Which is out on some rural roads.


The Conditions:
Temp: 40*F (Feels Like 33*)
Humidity: 51%
Wind: 10 mph
Dew Point: 23*F


The Products Used:

Wash Mitt: Cobra Bone Microfiber Wash Pad
Wash Media: Meguiar's D114 Rinse Free Express Wash

For this wash I am using the new Meguiar's D114 Rinse Free Express Wash than Richard (rwright) was nice enough to send me. I will be posting my thoughts on this new wash in another thread. But D114 is not supposed to contain any polymers or gloss enhancers that could affect the outcome of this test.


Pre-Wash Pics:



Post Wash:



Post Wash Beading:




Post Wash Sheeting:







It is worth noting that the BF Side of the vehicle sheets water at about half the speed of the WG side. It is not a bad thing yet as they both sheet, but the BF is simply slower. Both sides of protection are defiantly still there and you can see a definite line where they were taped off.


Side note: The truck is going into the body shop next week to have the driver’s side worked on. Hopefully this will not affect the testing.

[TroyScherer]

**Date: 03-23-2012**
**Update**

IMO the waxes are totalty gone and at this point I am left with onlt the sealants. You will see and hear me note the it is now to the point where I would normaly strip it or re-coat the sealants. Enjoy.



Pics:







Time Lapse:




Videos:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5kuI2ATCzY] 2 WGvsBF 3-17-12 [/video]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_1NRofBWuQ] 3 WGvsBF 3-17-12 [/video]



I will continue to watch the test area and decide if more updates are needed. But at this point I belive most of us would redo the protection anyway.

[TroyScherer]

**Date: 03-24-2012**
**Basic Update**

It rained all night last night. I went out about 9:00 am this morning to see the hood still beading, but nothing like it did previously IMO. The sealants are still there but I couldn't see any of my tape line anymore. The only time I can see the vertical one now is when I am sheeting water or trying to dry it off. I will keep watching and continue to make updates. But I do stand by my previous comments that at this point I would normally reapply.




3-24-12 Pics

[Mustang81]

This is very very interesting. Please continue with the updates.

[KneeDragr]

This is very very interesting. Please continue with the updates.

+1.

I am really curious as to whether the sealant that had the wax topper lasts longer than the sealant alone! I'm betting they all die at the same time.

[HellDemon]

Wow absolutely fantasic test on durability; TBH I normally don't expect nuba's to last more than a month, and especally when only doing 1 layer, this really is very interesting. Awesome results!

I would say that BFMS performs admirably comparative to fuzion, but with the new price of MS being $80 (though still being sold for $70), it really puts it in the range of fuzion territory, so I would think that fuzion at this point, is a better deal based on your results.

[OhTwoGT]

Wow absolutely fantasic test on durability; TBH I normally don't expect nuba's to last more than a month, and especally when only doing 1 layer, this really is very interesting. Awesome results!

I would say that BFMS performs admirably comparative to fuzion, but with the new price of MS being $80 (though still being sold for $70), it really puts it in the range of fuzion territory, so I would think that fuzion at this point, is a better deal based on your results.

Id have to disagree here, with Fuzion being 175$ for the 8oz and Midnight sun being sold for 70$ for the 8oz right now, I would say that MS is the better deal since they perform almost the same.