Which Pads for use with Griot's?

[Madness87]

Wondering the difference between the Griot's Orange and Red Waxing Pads?

Does anyone know?

Is the Orange Pad considered a CUTTING PAD, and the Red considered a FINISHING PAD?

Want to know because was informed that if you use an orbital polisher too often on a car surface, could wear down the clear coat? Is this true?

Also, wondering what should be concerned about when using an orbital polisher on car surface, like the corners, and wearing down crowns?

Thanks,

The orange is more a firm polishing pad as opposed to a cutting pad, while the red is a soft finishing/finessing pad.

If comparing them to Lake Country pads, I'd put the Griots Orange pad above the lake country white, but below the Lake Country Orange, and the Griots red pad would be above the Lake Country red, but below the Lake Country Gray/Black.

They are decent pads, and if you don't really need much defect or paint removal or compounding done, you can just use the griots combination over and over. Once you do a solid detail on a car, you are always more careful. And yes, using a polisher too often does wear away the clear coat. Remember, the only way to fix swirls and defects is to remove some of the clear coat. It's usually microns but the more you wear it down, the thinner it gets.

As for the rest, you have to be careful around corners and tight spaces. Always tape off the area so as to not damage places. You could also get the Griots 3" polisher or get a smaller 3" or 3.5" backing plate and use 3" or 4" pads on your normal DA polisher.

[Eandras]

Just to pass along a little tip and its something covered already but I don't mind bringing it up here for sure, when using the GG 6" RO, don't use speed #6 or too much pro

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Can you elaborate a bit more? I routinely use speed 6 on my GG unit and a lt of pressure. No issues as of this post.

[bbk11]

The orange is more a firm polishing pad as opposed to a cutting pad, while the red is a soft finishing/finessing pad.

If comparing them to Lake Country pads, I'd put the Griots Orange pad above the lake country white, but below the Lake Country Orange, and the Griots red pad would be above the Lake Country red, but below the Lake Country Gray/Black.

They are decent pads, and if you don't really need much defect or paint removal or compounding done, you can just use the griots combination over and over. Once you do a solid detail on a car, you are always more careful. And yes, using a polisher too often does wear away the clear coat. Remember, the only way to fix swirls and defects is to remove some of the clear coat. It's usually microns but the more you wear it down, the thinner it gets.

As for the rest, you have to be careful around corners and tight spaces. Always tape off the area so as to not damage places. You could also get the Griots 3" polisher or get a smaller 3" or 3.5" backing plate and use 3" or 4" pads on your normal DA polisher. [PHP] 

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What if you just use the Red (finishing) pad. Would this wear down the clear coat after a while? Understand if you are using the Orange pad to get rid of scratches, this would wear down the clear coat because the scratch is in the coat.

What about the crown's on the car (the indented, or angled area on the surface to give the a better look to the car)...can't tape this off because would then tape off a lot of the car down the sides, front, roof. Is there concerns about these angles when using an orbital polisher?

Thanks

[Madness87]

What if you just use the Red (finishing) pad. Would this wear down the clear coat after a while? Understand if you are using the Orange pad to get rid of scratches, this would wear down the clear coat because the scratch is in the coat.

What about the crown's on the car (the indented, or angled area on the surface to give the a better look to the car)...can't tape this off because would then tape off a lot of the car down the sides, front, roof. Is there concerns about these angles when using an orbital polisher?

Thanks

Well the red finishing pad has no "cut" and so it won't wear down the clear. You can use it over and over again with a wax or sealant if you wish, it'll be no different than if you were to apply by hand.

As for buffing on angles and curves, maybe this video/thread by Mike Phillips might help. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...s-machine.html

[bbk11]

Well the red finishing pad has no "cut" and so it won't wear down the clear. You can use it over and over again with a wax or sealant if you wish, it'll be no different than if you were to apply by hand.

As for buffing on angles and curves, maybe this video/thread by Mike Phillips might help. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...s-machine.html

Thanks for the answers. Feel much more secure about the Red Griot's pads now. Was concerned about using the orbital polisher too often with the Red Pads, but because of your answer, feel very comfortable now.

Thanks for the link too.

[wangotango]

I have a GG 6 and 3.
Have used their orange with M105/205 a lot and gotten good results.
Used their red with sealants/wax stuff. For me, if I'm not really getting after something,I prefer the GG-6 with a 5" plate and the 5.5 CCS pads from Lake County for the feel. But that's just me.
Take a big flat hood of a vehicle that you can see obvious imperfections in. Take a GG6 orange pad and some M205 and improve the surface. Get a feel for that pad. Then take a LC CCS red pad and work in a nice sealant or wax. You'll feel the difference. You may prefer one way or the other, but you'll fell the difference,