Griots BOSS Pads - Orange vs. Yellow

[CC268]

Hey guys,

Let's say I used an AIO like HD Speed with the Griots BOSS Orange pads - could I go straight to a wax/sealant from here? Or would I need to follow up with the BOSS Yellow pads before going to a wax/sealant?

As someone who only does this every so often, I'm trying to eliminate cost and steps where I can.

Thanks!

[TMQ]

Yes...

Purpose of AIO is to correct and seal paint all at one time and then you are done. Can you use either the orange pad for harder paint or the yellow if paint on the softer side.
This is where doing a test spot helps which pad to use.

Now if you want---you can wax or apply sealant but with a softer pad. Can either be the finishing pad, wax pad or whatever. Need only 2 or 3 pads.

You can top Speed with wax or sealant right after applying speed or you can wait couple months then clean the paint and then seal it.
Both are ways will work depending the time you have.

I probably would seal it in 2 or 3 months since the protection from Speed begins to wear off.

Tom

[CC268]

Yes...

Purpose of AIO is to correct and seal paint all at one time and then you are done. Can you use either the orange pad for harder paint or the yellow if paint on the softer side.
This is where doing a test spot helps which pad to use.

Now if you want---you can wax or apply sealant but with a softer pad. Can either be the finishing pad, wax pad or whatever. Need only 2 or 3 pads.

You can top Speed with wax or sealant right after applying speed or you can wait couple months then clean the paint and then seal it.
Both are ways will work depending the time you have.

I probably would seal it in 2 or 3 months since the protection from Speed begins to wear off.

Tom

I figured I could do HD Speed with white or orange BOSS pads (test spot to see what works best) and then top off with some Collinite 845 on a soft pad (I have some blue and black LC flat pads that could be used for this)

Thanks for the feedback

[2black1s]

Assuming that either the orange or yellow pad along with the AIO provides the level of defect correction desired, I'd choose the yellow first. If I only had the orange pads, I'd use them.

Try it.

Do a test spot with the orange pad you have and look at the results. If the finish meets your expectations then you could certainly top that with any pure wax of your choice.

If you're not really satisfied with the finish the orange pad is providing, then try the yellow or even black pad.

[CC268]

Assuming that either the orange or yellow pad along with the AIO provides the level of defect correction desired, I'd choose the yellow first. If I only had the orange pads, I'd use them.

Try it.

Do a test spot with the orange pad you have and look at the results. If the finish meets your expectations then you could certainly top that with any pure wax of your choice.

If you're not really satisfied with the finish the orange pad is providing, then try the yellow or even black pad.

Thanks for the feedback. I have some white and orange BOSS pads and was planning to order some more of both. I suppose I could order some yellow pads as well. The problem is I need a lot of pads (this will be for an airplane) and I’m trying to cut cost and steps where I can. I would like to have at least 10+ pads.

Maybe I ought to go with orange and yellow pads instead of white. Tough to say until I lay eyes on the paint.

[2black1s]

Thanks for the feedback. I have some white and orange BOSS pads and was planning to order some more of both. I suppose I could order some yellow pads as well. The problem is I need a lot of pads (this will be for an airplane) and I’m trying to cut cost and steps where I can. I would like to have at least 10+ pads.

Maybe I ought to go with orange and yellow pads instead of white. Tough to say until I lay eyes on the paint.

I think that is a good call. From all of the BOSS pads, (most to least aggressive... white, orange, yellow, black), the orange and yellow combination is probably the most versatile combination you could have from those choices.

[Mike Phillips]

Just to chime in,

A whole lot of great discussion and then the other shoe drops. See the portion I turned RED.

I have some white and orange BOSS pads and was planning to order some more of both.

I suppose I could order some yellow pads as well. The problem is I need a lot of pads (this will be for an airplane) and I’m trying to cut cost and steps where I can.

I would like to have at least 10+ pads.

Maybe I ought to go with orange and yellow pads instead of white. Tough to say until I lay eyes on the paint.

I hate to assume but going with what I know and it sounds like you're tackling this yourself, as a one-man-operation, I assuming this is for a light aircraft? Like a single engine Cessna or something?

Again, hate to assume, but assuming my guess is correct, the light aircraft if most likely painted with single stage paint and machine buffing with any type of foam CUTTING pad or ANY TYPE of microfiber pad (fibers are abrasives), using either of these is going to burn through all the paint on the rivets and overlapping edges of aluminum panels.

Your best bet will be to take the safe approach and use the Griot's ORANGE pads which in the context of foam cutting pads goes - are NOT very aggressive. This is even more true once the foam becomes WET with product - they basically become a great foam "POLISHING" pad.


Hope that helps...


Can you share a picture of the Plane?

[CC268]

Just to chime in,

A whole lot of great discussion and then the other shoe drops. See the portion I turned RED.





I hate to assume but going with what I know and it sounds like you're tackling this yourself, as a one-man-operation, I assuming this is for a light aircraft? Like a single engine Cessna or something?

Again, hate to assume, but assuming my guess is correct, the light aircraft if most likely painted with single stage paint and machine buffing with any type of foam CUTTING pad or ANY TYPE of microfiber pad (fibers are abrasives), using either of these is going to burn through all the paint on the rivets and overlapping edges of aluminum panels.

Your best bet will be to take the safe approach and use the Griot's ORANGE pads which in the context of foam cutting pads goes - are NOT very aggressive. This is even more true once the foam becomes WET with product - they basically become a great foam "POLISHING" pad.


Hope that helps...


Can you share a picture of the Plane?

Thanks for chiming in! This will be a Beechcraft Bonanza (N35). Fairly similar in size to maybe a Cessna 182, but certainly larger than a Cessna 172.

I will be using a GG6 for this by the way. I already have 4 Orange BOSS pads, 4 white BOSS pads, and 4 microfiber BOSS pads (bought these a while back for my small fishing boat and never used them - they are still brand new). That said, because I've already invested in the BOSS pads I would prefer to stick with those. I have some practically brand new black and blue LC Flat pads, so I don't think I really need to spend money on wax/sealant specific BOSS pads.

Here are my questions:

1. Should I buy just orange BOSS pads? (I figure I would buy two more 6 packs of pads, which would put me at 16 Orange total)
2. Should I worry about buying the Yellow BOSS pads as well?
3. Would 3D Speed and 3D One be good products to test first?

About 4 years ago I polished my entire Piper Cherokee with my GG6, using white and orange LC Flat pads (white pads in this case being less aggressive than orange - the opposite of the BOSS pads) and HD Speed. The paint was really hard, so I never got all the scratches/scuffs out in some spots, but it still looked very good. I was happy with the process. I figured something similar will work on this aircraft as well.

Here is a photo of the plane. It is back in Kentucky, but I will be going out there in the next week or so to ferry it back to Arizona. From what I can tell, the paint is in really nice shape already.

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[Coatingsarecrack]

Thanks for the feedback. I have some white and orange BOSS pads and was planning to order some more of both. I suppose I could order some yellow pads as well. The problem is I need a lot of pads (this will be for an airplane) and I’m trying to cut cost and steps where I can. I would like to have at least 10+ pads.

Maybe I ought to go with orange and yellow pads instead of white. Tough to say until I lay eyes on the paint.

I have boss yellow and orange for my g15. Yellow finished down find and orange cut through the deep stuff on my shadow black ford paint.


Unless you need major correction I think orangecand yellow way to go.


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[noorth]

But i just don't understand how your going to put a lot of work in polishing a plane of all things and you want to cheap out on polishes and protection?