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Diminishing Abrasives
Hello gentleman,
Regarding Diminishing abrasives:
is it something recommended for a beginner? If so, why?
From what I can tell the lack thereof will extend working time but is that something a beginner necessarily wants (I'm afraid I will abrade to much of the Clear Coat or paint).
I am currently looking at Meguiars, The Wolfgang brothers, or Pinnacle brothers.
Wolfgang and Pinnacle diminish, Meguiars M205 and M105 do not but I am hearing great things about them all.
I have a dark Blue f-150 with a lot of swirl marks I am trying to remove with a GG6" equipped with 5" plate.
Appreciate your help.
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Re: Diminishing Abrasives
I personally prefer DAT based polishes as I can get them to finish out better IME.
I have not used the Pinnacle products so I can not comment. However my vote goes for the Wolfgang lineup.
M105 is not user friendly for the beginner.
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Re: Diminishing Abrasives
Sometimes it's nice to know when you're done polishing when you see the abrasives break down.
With the non-diminishing abrasives, I find it equally simple, because I know I'm done polishing when the swirls are gone.
I'm training a guy right now, and pad priming can be a hassle - especially if not done correctly.
I've never used Wolfgang or Pinnacle abrasives before, but I love using Menzerna polishes.
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I think it comes down to preference and what you get used to. I think the Meguiars has more correction capability but that said I absolutely really like the Wolfgang combo and pretty much use it all the time. I pair it with the LC hydro-tech pads and IMO it's a hard to beat Combo that is very user friendly.
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I would recommend starting off with ultimate compound. I agree that M105 is not user friendly. It has a slight learning curve.
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Originally Posted by Mike@DedicatedPerfection
M105 is not user friendly for the beginner.
What about M205? user friendly for the beginner?
And from what I am reading it appears as if I need to try both DAT and SMAT product and choose my own preference.
But is their one that's best to start with?
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Originally Posted by Dman81
What about M205? user friendly for the beginner?
And from what I am reading it appears as if I need to try both DAT and SMAT product and choose my own preference.
But is their one that's best to start with?
M205 has been a go to product for me for some time. But it does produce a fair amount of dust. I got some Black Fire Polish (not the compound) and like it better simply because it doesn't produce a lot of dust. I did one of my cars with the BF product last weekend and didn't have any visible dust on the floor of the garage when I was done. (Yeah, I can see dust on my garage floor. It's red and black checkerboard Racedeck floor.)
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Re: Diminishing Abrasives
So this is what I think I'm going to do:
1.) Start with ultimate compound (I definitely need two step)...But how do I know when it has done it's job?
2.) follow up with M205 (Unlike Ultimate Polish it doesn't have glazes, wax, or fillers so I can see when it's done)
Down the line I am definitely at some point trying the Wolfgang or Pinnacle combos coupled with LC pads
Appreciate the help guys.
Final thoughts?
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That combination will work just fine. I have used both with no problems.
Inspect the area you are working on after a few passes and you will have to determine if it's to your satisfaction.
I have only had M205 dust when I used it with an aggressive pad during a hot day. Other than that it works just fine.
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M205 is very easy to use. This is coming from a guy that has previously used Menzerna Polishes. So yea.. can't go wrong.
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