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    Re: 128 Bottles of Wheel Cleaner for $32.99

    I have this one hand will have to give it a shot. By foaming sprayer are you referring to a hand pump sprayer like a Venus pro or just a old wheel cleaner bottle?

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    Foaming sprayer is CG's The Duck sprayer on a regular bottle.

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    Re: 128 Bottles of Wheel Cleaner for $32.99

    I would assume this would not be a good wheel cleaner for those that seal/wax their wheels vs. a coating? The dilution you are using is 4x the 1oz./gal recommended for a bucket wash strip.

    Since I started sealing my wheels, I use DG901 diluted at 1:64 in a sprayer for maintenance washes so I don't strip the sealant. I use either BF All Metal Sealant or Coll 845.

    Sounds like CW Red is perfect for cleaning coated wheels or for a customer car that has neglected wheels where you don't want to use a more expensive product like Sonax FE (like if the customer has only requested a "basic" exterior or something like that).

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    Re: 128 Bottles of Wheel Cleaner for $32.99

    Quote Originally Posted by Ohio Detailing View Post
    Thanks a lot for the idea! I use Red Citrus Wash and the Citrus Wash & Gloss almost 100% of the time on clients' vehicles, and have gallons left right now. I have used the CG Bug/Tar wash as a spray before to pre-treat problematic panels, but as a wheel cleaner I've never tried the Red Citrus.

    Do you find that the foaming spray-nozzle is a must, and credit it for the success of the wash for the wheel cleaning abilities?

    Also, it's a 50/50 mix of my customers when it comes to their vehicles -- some are maintained very well, and some are neglected and have a great deal of aggregated residue and brake dust etc. baked on to the wheels... would this approach be potent or aggressive enough for those situations, or would that still require T.R.I.X or one of the now countless other iron activated 'purple' cleaners? Thanks!
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    Re: 128 Bottles of Wheel Cleaner for $32.99

    I've done pretty much the same thing, only recently I switched to Citrus Wash & Gloss rather than the Citrus Wash. While I initially started with Citrus Wash (Red), I figured that if W&G did have gloss agents, I wouldn't mind them on the wheels. I found W&G to foam better than Red, and thus be better on the wheels. I am using the CG Duck foaming sprayer, which throws a ton of product, in my experience.

    I had quite a few CG MSDS that I can try to find and post. If I remember correctly, there wasn't anything that caught my eye, in a negative way, with any of these soaps. I do know that the only CG wheel cleaner I use is Diablo, and the MSDS confirms it is a neutral detergent at full strength.

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    Re: 128 Bottles of Wheel Cleaner for $32.99

    Just used Citrus Red in my foam cannon today @2oz and WOW did that foam stick to the paint, the dwell was easily 5 min or more I lost track of time from talking. Ill have to try this wheel cleaner mix sounds inexpensive!
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    Re: 128 Bottles of Wheel Cleaner for $32.99

    I mix Meg's Super Degreaser 5:1 + Citrus Red as my wheel/well/prespray and it works awesome in my Solo Pump Sprayer. I find strong soap + safe dwelling really cuts down on the more expensive chemicals.

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    Re: 128 Bottles of Wheel Cleaner for $32.99

    I wonder why the red is not on chemical guys web site.

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    Here is the MSDS for Red. So kind of Adios S6 to send it to me. It does have some NaOH in it, but I'm guessing not too much.

    Here is the MSDS for Red. So kind of Adios S6 to send it to me. It does have some NaOH in it, but I'm guessing not too much.

    MSDS Material Safety Data Sheet
    CITRAWASH
    In accordance with directive 91/155/EC (Amended as 93/112/EC) Revision Date: 9/24/12
    Page 1 of 4
    Section 1:
    Identification of the substance and manufacture
    Product Name: CITRAWASH
    Product Use: Automotive Detailing
    Manufacturer:
    Chemical Guys
    3915 W. 102nd Street
    Inglewood, CA 90303
    Telephone Number: 310.674.8135
    FAX Number: 310.988.1061
    E-mail: info@chemicalguys.com
    Web: www.ChemicalGuys.com
    Section 2:
    Composition / Information on Ingredients
    CAS # / EC #
    Percent
    Chemical Name
    Haz. Symbol / R Phrases
    1310-73-2 / 215-185-5
    <2%
    Sodium Hydroxide
    T, Xn / R45,R46, R65
    27176-87-0 / 248-289-4
    15 – 35%
    Dodecylbenzen
    Xi* / R36*
    68585-34-2 / 231-598-3
    1 - 15%
    Sodium Lauryl Ether
    Xi* / R36*
    Proprietary Blend
    0.3%
    Dye
    Xi; R36/38
    Proprietary Blend
    0.20%
    Fragrance
    Xi; R36/38
    55-70%
    Water
    NA
    * Self-Classified

    Section 3:
    Hazard Identification
    Route of Entry: See Below
    Target Organs: No Information
    Inhalation: May cause mild irritation.
    Skin Contact: May Cause mild irritation.
    Eye Contact: May cause irritation.
    Ingestion: May cause irritation to the mucous membranes.
    HMIS II-ratins (scale 0-4): Health =1, Fire = 0, Reactivity = 0
    HMIS Rating H1/FO/PHO
    NFPA – ratings (scale 0-4): Health = 1, Fire = 0, Reactivity = 0
    Section 4:
    First Aid Measures
    Inhalation: If breathing is difficult or irritating, move to fresh air immediately. If symptoms persist, get medical attention.
    Skin Contact: Rinse area with soap and water. Seek medical attention if any redness or irritation persists.
    Eye Contact: Flush immediately with large amounts of clean water for a minimum of 15 minutes, lifting upper and lower lids occasionally. Do not rub eyes. If any irritation persists, seek medical attention.
    Ingestion: If the person is conscious, give two glasses of water to dilute the ingested material. Small amounts that may have accidentally entered the mouth should be rinsed out thoroughly with water. Seek medical attention immediately.
    MSDS Material Safety Data sheet
    CITRAWASH
    In accordance with directive 91/155/EC (Amended as 93/112/EC) Revision Date: 9/24/12
    Page 2 of 4
    Section 5:
    Fire Fighting Measures
    Flash Point: N/A
    Flash Point Method: Closed Cup
    Burning Rate: N/A
    Auto Ignition Temperature: N/A
    LEL: N/A
    UEL: N/A
    Flammability Classification: Non – Flammable
    Section 6:
    Accidental Release Measures
    Contain large spills with dikes to prevent entry to waterways and sanitary sewers and transfer the material to appropriate containers for reclamation or disposal. Absorb/trap remaining material or small spills with inert material (dirt, sand, industrial absorbent) and then place in chemical waste containers. Flush residual spill area with large amounts of water. Dispose of all clean up materials in accordance with all applicable federal, state, and local health and environmental regulations.
    Section 7:
    Handling and Storage
    Handling Precautions: Wear proper Personal Protective Equipment when handling.
    Storage Requirements: Do not store in direct sunlight. Keep away from children. Keep containers tightly closed.
    PROCEDURE FOR HANDLING
    - Avoid contact with eyes.
    - Wash and dry hands after using.
    - Use good occupational work practices.
    - Avoid physical damage to containers.
    SUITABLE CONTAINER
    - Packaging as recommended by manufacturer.
    - Check all containers are clearly labeled and free from leaks.
    STORAGE REQUIREMENTS
    - Store in original containers.
    - Keep containers securely sealed.
    - No smoking, naked lights or ignition sources.
    - Store in a cool, dry, well-ventilated area.
    Section 8:
    Exposure Controls / Personal Protection
    Engineering Controls: No Hazard
    Protective Equipment: HMIS PP, A / Goggles
    Safety glasses or goggles recommended.
    Exposure Guidelines/other: None
    MSDS Material Safety Data sheet
    CITRAWASH
    In accordance with directive 91/155/EC (Amended as 93/112/EC) Revision Date: 9/24/12
    Page 3 of 4
    Section 9:
    Physical and Chemical Properties
    Appearance: Orange Clear Boiling Point: 212F
    Physical state: Liquid Soap Freezing: approx. 32 F
    Odor: Citrus Fruit Scent Solubility: Soluble in water
    pH: 8 Spec. Grav. / Density: 8.5 lbs/gal.
    Vapor Pressure: No available data
    Vapor Density: No available data
    Section 10:
    Stability and Reactivity
    Stability: Yes
    Conditions to avoid: None Known
    Materials to avoid: Strong Oxidizers.
    Hazardous Decomposition: Will not occur.
    Hazardous Polymerization: Will not occur.
    Section 11:
    Toxicological Information
    Component Information
    Additional Information: The product is not subject to classification according to the calculation method of the
    General EC Classification Guidelines for Preparations as issued in the latest version. When used and handled according to specifications, the product does not have any harmful effects according to our experience and the information provided to us.
    Section 12:
    Ecological Information
    Ecotoxicity effects: This product has no known eco-toxicological effects.
    Section 13:
    Disposal Consideration
    Dispose of in accordance with local, state, and federal regulations.
    Section 14:
    Transportation Information
    Handling Precautions: Wear proper Personal Protective Equipment when handling.
    Storage Requirements: Do not store in direct sunlight. Keep away from children. Keep containers tightly closed.
    PROCEDURE FOR HANDLING
    - Avoid contact with eyes.
    - Wash and dry hands after using.
    - Use good occupational work practices.
    - Avoid physical damage to containers.
    SUITABLE CONTAINER
    - Packaging as recommended by manufacturer.
    - Check all containers are clearly labeled and free from leaks.
    STORAGE REQUIREMENTS
    - Store in original containers.
    - Keep containers securely sealed.
    - No smoking, naked lights or ignition sources.
    - Store in a cool, dry, well-ventilated area.
    MSDS Material Safety Data sheet
    CITRAWASH
    In accordance with directive 91/155/EC (Amended as 93/112/EC) Revision Date: 9/24/12
    Page 4 of 4
    Section 15:
    Regulatory Information
    CHIP 3Compliance
    Xi - Irritant
    R 36 - Irritating to eyes.
    S1/2 – Keep locked up and out of the reach of children
    S25- Avoid contact with eyes.
    S39 - Wear eye/face protection.
    S62- If swallowed, do not induce vomiting: seek medical advice immediately and show this container or label.
    Section 16:
    Other Information
    The information contained herein is based on data considered to be accurate. However, the information is provided without any warranty, Expressed or implied, regarding its correctness. The conditions or methods of handling, storage, use and disposal of the product are beyond our control and may be beyond our knowledge. For this and other reasons, we do not assume responsibility and expressly disclaim liability for loss, damage or expense arising out of or in any way connected with handling, storage, use or disposal of the product.



    OK. Bob, tell us how this product is killing us and ruining our cars.

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    Re: 128 Bottles of Wheel Cleaner for $32.99

    Quote Originally Posted by swanicyouth View Post
    OK. Bob, tell us how this product is killing us and ruining our cars.
    Speaking of "killing and ruining":
    I'd rather focus on your current avatar (as of 04/09/2014).

    IMHO:
    Lauren Bacall was the embodiment/personification of:
    "Femme Fatale"

    Bob
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