AIO Before Sealant?

[ChrisMessier]

Good morning autogeek!

Today I am performing a full detail on a 2012 VW Passat TDI. The customer wants me to apply Simoniz System 5 to the paint for added winter protection.

I was unsure about one thing... Being a synthetic teflon sealant, would Megs Cleaner Wax (Burgundy bottly) work as a prep stage? Or should I go with something like Color-X or Fine cut cleaner?

My idea is that the wax content within the cleaner wax would interfere with how Simoniz bonds... BTW, PC7424XP for prep and hand app. of Simoniz.

I have a few hours before I begin with the paint. Anything would help.

Thanks in advance!!

[BobbyG]

Hi Chris,

I don't have any experiance with the Simioiz System 5 you mention but a quick look on the Internet tells me it's not a very good product. If this is what he wants then I'd use a straight cleaner, wipe with mineral spirits or an IPA solution, then apply the Simoniz product..

Meguiar's Cleaner Wax is just that, it cleans the finish and leaves behind a little wax protection. Meguiar's Color X is also a 1-step product that polishes and leaves some wax behind.. Both of these will stain plastic trim and rubber seals to spend some time tapping them off or avoid them completely..

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Clay
Clean or Polish
Seal or wax

[Kevin Cullen]

+1 on Bobby's post.

[FUNX650]

-I realize that: "Where there's a will there's a way"...
But I thought that the Simonize System 5 was a dealership applied product...
Backed by some sort of 'warranty' or the other.

I digress.

-Evidently...You have espied some paint-blemishes on this VW, and want to clean them
up some (AIO-style), before application of this sealant-'system'.

-Your concern over bonding-issues may be alleviated by staying within a manufacturer's
car care product-line---"synergistically speaking"<<<(M.P.), that is.

-Although it's been a while since I have used anything Simonize...
I would bet that there are several OTC Simonize cleaner-waxes (AIO's) to choose from.

Just a suggestion.



Bob

[POPPAJ]

Hi Chris,
The Teflon "system" is a bunch of hooey! Teflon only bonds at temperatures above 700 degrees, it's a dealership sales pitch that requires further "maintenance" every six months.
When I'm asked to use an owners products I'll tell them that I spend a lot of time researching the products I use to provide the best for my customers and would prefer to use my products. I can't do a class A job with class D products. That said, I don't turn away work, just advise the customer.