Anyone ever seen this technique?

[slickooz]

Can't you remove over spay with just an white pad and M205? After getting my car back from the body shop I noticed there were some over spray on my car. I just clayed the area and then just polished it. It removed all of it and had a slick feeling to it again.

[NoleFan]

AT 3:21 in the video....it looks like his gum falls onto the car as he is going to town with his towel and then it looks like he puts it back into his mouth! I'll stick with the least aggressive method of claying first.

That is awesome. I never would have noticed it.

[NoleFan]

Ok, after watching the one with the Blue Chevy, this dude is on something! He is laying is peace sign watch all over the paint!!!

Also, is it possible that some of those "white flakes" are clear coat that he is using his "blader" to remove?

I agree though that I have never seen that many cars that have that much overspray. It looks like that his is business, just overspray.

[Kevin Brown]

Gotta tell you guys... This was and is a viable alternative for removing overspray!



This was once a big-time business before the advent of clay. And if that was epoxy urethane on that red truck... it is a brutal paint to deal with. I once removed overspray from 14 cars that had been thoroughly coated with epoxy urethane, used at a nearby sewage treatment plant. The painter actually affected about 800 cars in San Luis Obispo, CA. The job permit required the paint to be applied by roller and brush, but somebody figured they could save some time and sprayed the job instead.

Tell you what- compared to what the out of town "experts" did to hundreds of cars, I would have had used this guy before the guys I saw using 3M 02602 Softback Sanding Sponges to rid the cars of overspray. They sanded hard and soft plastics and paint, and used loads of #0000 steel wool. Then they buffed the paint with a hand glaze, and called it done.

Now, whether the finish attained by the wool pad, the product, and the guy is up to typical wax forum standards is legitimately questionable. But, he is certainly using the wool pad and compound to efficiently remove overspray, and he is showing very close-up shots of his work. If he had much to hide, he either didn't show the roasted and toasted trim parts, or he has done this type of work more than a few times with a high degree of success, and has learned when not to use a wool pad on certain trim pieces.

Let me also say that I wish I was as good with a razor as he seems to be- this is not an easy thing to do (at least the first few times, anyway)! I used this same exact procedure on a Lexus SC400 a looong time ago, and it was soooo nerve-racking that I only finished half the car and went back to buffing and hand rubbing. Curvy car, so it carried with it a high degree of difficulty.

Granted- most overspray jobs can be handled with clay bars nowadays. But we didn't always have clay, and it was a super drag to deal with heavy overspray removal.

Anyway, whether you think the guy is the real deal, whether he seems to be a professional or not- he is doing something that is not easy to do, but it does work exceptionally well. Does he gouge some panels every now and again? Probably, but I suspect that it is a pretty rare occurrence if he is as good as he seems to be with the razor. I will say that if he would spend a day with me to show me the ropes of wielding the razor... I'd be happy to spend a day with him showing him how to use a G110v2!!

I actually referenced this method several years ago:

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If the link is not allowed, it was this with the spaces removed:
http:// meguiarsonline.com /forums/ showpost.php?p=113412&postcount=3

The post:

If the paint is stuck to non-painted plastic (textured or smooth), it'll eventually loosen up due to expansion/contraction, oxidation, or out-gassing of the plastic. In other words, it'll eventually come off. Sometimes, use of a pressure washer will help things along. Applied liberally, M40 Vinyl/Rubber Cleaner & Conditioner will help to weaken the bond.

If the paint-blob is stuck to automotive PAINT, and the paint-blob is thick (and nothing in the chemical realm works)... Use a plastic razor blade (or a brand new putty knife, taped with masking tape) to push against the paint-blob. Again, liberal use of the M40 will help. This method is a long-shot, but give it a try.

If neither of these methods work, this one will:
Oh boy, I can hear the screams in protest of this recommendation already)...

1. Remove loose contamination (pretty obvious).
2. Wax the area with the hardest wax you can find (a paste carnauba works well).
3. Let haze, then wipe off excess residue.
4. Use a new razor blade. Rub the blade-edge across some rough leather (like the backside of a belt). The motion should be as if you were painting with a paint brush... Back and forth. This will fine-hone the blade.

Now, gently push the blade (at an appropriately slim angle) against the paint-blob, doing your best to avoid gouging the car paint (duh).

The wax coat is a barrier, and will allow the razor to ride upon it. Sometimes you'll notice the wax being scraped away. If that's the case. re-apply and repeat the process.

I've used this process dozens of times. A few times I did 'scrape' away a little paint, but it was not very noticeable.

BIG recommendation that you get the feel for the razor on a junk panel before you make the attempt on your ride.

FYI...
Before there was such a thing as over-spray clay, a company used this method (with huge success) to remove paint overspray from vehicles (primarily for insurance companies).
I used the method a couple of times to remove overspray, but it was too freaky for me!

[sspudnick]

Thanks KB! That was actually my initial question. Was this an actual technique...Your answer def. satisfies that question, thank you for that.

I was mainly nervous/skeptical because of what seemed to be his lack of technique/care with the rotary, and using an orbital to remove swirls?!

I was in the Medical field in the Army, and I can say...if you cant speak the lingo, people will not take you seriously. Maybe that's what made me nervous about him....he doesnt seem to know what the heck he's talking about, but like i said a few times.....he's still getting great results. Either way, glad you replied. Thanks again.

[VW 91]

I would love to see an IPA wipedown after that bc2 wax was applied and "removed" the swirls. Guaranteed that the paint would look worse than when he started. He may get good results, and his overspray removal technique seems really good too, but he's skipping steps and hiding the damage done to the paint. In one of his other videos he drops his clay bar on a work bench that has all his buffers and products on! Then he uses it on the paint, that must leave some serious marring for sure. I dont like how some people claim to be detailers when all they are doing is skipping steps to get the job done quick, and then cover up their mess from skipping those steps by using products that have fillers in them to hide the true condition of the paint.

lol rant over

[richy]

I did a job last week with a month old white road paint that had dried and cured on a 2010 GMC Pickup. Here it is:

[sspudnick]

I did a job last week with a month old white road paint that had dried and cured on a 2010 GMC Pickup. Here it is:

That thing looks fantastic. Great job!

I may be interested in some of the products you use. I'll send you a pm about it when I get the chance. If i forget, and you think about, mind sending me a pm and reminding me? If not, no biggie...Just have a lot of things going on, and will probably forget.

Anyways, seriously man. GREAT job on the truck, it looks fantastic.

P.S. How you like the dynabride?

[richy]

That thing looks fantastic. Great job!

I may be interested in some of the products you use. I'll send you a pm about it when I get the chance. If i forget, and you think about, mind sending me a pm and reminding me? If not, no biggie...Just have a lot of things going on, and will probably forget.

Anyways, seriously man. GREAT job on the truck, it looks fantastic.

P.S. How you like the dynabride?

First, I love the dynabrade. It's not the latest, most-talked-about-tool-on-the-market nonsense, but I'll tell you it has so much torque that you can spin a wool pad while barely feathering the trigger which is great on badly scratched plastic where you don't want any heat being generated at all. I would not trade mine for anything else.
Thanks about the job; I appreciate the feedback too. I don't get here as often as I'd like so why don't you just ask away what you'd like to know. The compounds I used were Megs 105 and 205 and I used Duragloss 601/501 mix topped with Collinite 845. I can elaborate on the mix or if you search it on this site, you'll see it discussed. It's a time saving step that I have used for about a year now. The wheel acid was Carbrite but Megs WB probably would have done just as good a job. The APC's are Zep which is available locally at Home Depot. They are priced right, work great and highly underrated IMO. Let me know if I missed anything.

[sspudnick]

First, I love the dynabrade. It's not the latest, most-talked-about-tool-on-the-market nonsense, but I'll tell you it has so much torque that you can spin a wool pad while barely feathering the trigger which is great on badly scratched plastic where you don't want any heat being generated at all. I would not trade mine for anything else.
Thanks about the job; I appreciate the feedback too. I don't get here as often as I'd like so why don't you just ask away what you'd like to know. The compounds I used were Megs 105 and 205 and I used Duragloss 601/501 mix topped with Collinite 845. I can elaborate on the mix or if you search it on this site, you'll see it discussed. It's a time saving step that I have used for about a year now. The wheel acid was Carbrite but Megs WB probably would have done just as good a job. The APC's are Zep which is available locally at Home Depot. They are priced right, work great and highly underrated IMO. Let me know if I missed anything.

Perfect answer, thank you very much!

I think im going to give Zep a shot, im having a hard time with the heavy soiled areas (wheel wells) with APC+ 4:1.

Once again, thanks a lot for the fast reply, and awesome job on the truck brother.