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Looking for a light cleaner to use as a LSP prep
I'm getting a lot of requests for cars to be sealed before the winter months approach. I typically do an AIO like Pinnacle XMT360 for the basic customer, but want to emphasize the protection for these cars. I would like to put a dedicated sealant on to achieve closer to 6-8 months of protection rather than the 2-4ish that the AIO might provide.
So, I'm looking for an easy to apply product (by machine preferably) that has mild abrasives to clean the surface (no paint correction necessary though) and leaves the surface free of wax and/or oils so the sealant can bond better.
Would this be a job for a "rejuvenating creme?"
CG blacklight has some mild abrasives correct? That would definitely add some gloss and fill a bit before applying a sealant; but does it leave oils? (I'm assuming so b/c of the filling properties)
I may try and up-sell this as opposed to the AIO since it is an extra step, but would provide more protection.
I guess I should add the reason I'm considering this is that if I do an AIO, then IPA wipe down before the sealant it kind of defeats the purpose of the AIO
Thanks!
Ben
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Re: Looking for a light cleaner to use as a LSP prep
In my experience, a good choice would be DG501. It is an excellent cleaner, but without abrasives. Mix in DG601 at a 1:4 ratio and it will cure immediately so it can be topped with your LSP of choice and increase the longevity of the protection.
Bill
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Re: Looking for a light cleaner to use as a LSP prep
I would suggest Optimum Polish, Finish, or Hyper Polish. These can all be used as prep for Opti-Coat without any cleaning steps (other than a dry wipe), so it should leave a virgin surface for whatever LSP you want to top them with.
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Re: Looking for a light cleaner to use as a LSP prep
Originally Posted by BillyJack
In my experience, a good choice would be DG501. It is an excellent cleaner, but without abrasives. Mix in DG601 at a 1:4 ratio and it will cure immediately so it can be topped with your LSP of choice and increase the longevity of the protection.
Bill
Correct me if I'm wrong Bill, but even without a topper LSP the 501/601 cocktail will last a good 4-6 months?
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Re: Looking for a light cleaner to use as a LSP prep
Getting 8 months out of a sealant is in my opinion overly optimistic
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant has consistently given me 6 months, but the beading is less impressive at 5 months
I would skip the additional prep step completely when using a sealant, it is not required and only eats into your profits
If your customer wants it cleaned up, but does not want to pay for defect removal, you may be better of using a straight cleaner like Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion
The Klasse Twins may be a reasonable option if you insist on multiple steps
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Re: Looking for a light cleaner to use as a LSP prep
Originally Posted by ski2
Correct me if I'm wrong Bill, but even without a topper LSP the 501/601 cocktail will last a good 4-6 months?
I can't answer that, since I've never left DG501 alone quite that long, but I do know that 3 months on a DD in PA is a given. Last winter I did 501 in September, followed by 105/601 and Collinite 476 in late October and got through the worst winter we've had in a long time on a car parked outside 24/7. I finally polished and waxed in June just 'cause I felt guilty.
You can bet I'm returning to the same recipe this winter.
Bill
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Re: Looking for a light cleaner to use as a LSP prep
Just do it all at once with a Cleaner-Sealant like:
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #20 Polymer Sealant 64 oz.
Bob
"Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
~Joaquin de Setanti
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Re: Looking for a light cleaner to use as a LSP prep
DG 501/601 combo is a great AIO that will clean and shine the paint while giving you 5-6 months of protection with proper maintenance.
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Re: Looking for a light cleaner to use as a LSP prep
dp prep polish, poor boys pro polish, sonax paint cleaner
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