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    Re: Headlight sealant: spar urethane vs. opti coat 2.0

    Definitely looking forward to updates since I am looking into offering this to my clients when doing headlight restorations.

    Can you use the same foam applicator pad several times? I would assume the coating will make the pad harden when it dries on it?

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    Re: Headlight sealant: spar urethane vs. opti coat 2.0

    Im interested as well. I have been coating headlights with Opti-Guard for the past few months. Im going to go pick up some of that Spar Urethane and Mineral Spirits myself and give that a try.
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    Re: Headlight sealant: spar urethane vs. opti coat 2.0

    This is very nice review of two real world products. The step by step including photos make this a perfect how to headlight restoration!

    Thanks for taking the time to post it!

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    Re: Headlight sealant: spar urethane vs. opti coat 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Part-timer View Post
    Mr. Fusion...... Is it just me, or does it seem like different makes/models have harder or softer composite material in their headlamp lenses? I'm wondering if thats why some are harder or easier to sand? Example....it seems like the Honda's and Chrysler's sand real easy and don't leave a bunch of sanding marks(swirls....ect). Other cars like Mitsubishi Eclipse and Chevy trucks seem like I really have to be careful and sand the heck outta them each step to make sure I don't get to the 3000 trizact and then see some 800 deep scratches left behind that I never noticed until then. I end up having to go back and re-sand by hand with 1000 to remove the marks, then work my way up to 3000 again. Anyone?
    Yes, some lights can be a pain for sure and some are a breeze. It used to be a lot bigger deal when I was polishing out everything. When using a wipe on or spray on coating (thicker product... not a thin "invisible" sealant like opti-coat etc) it doesn't matter so much because the coating hides most flaws.

    Opti-coat doesn't hide anything though, so it's important to get a nice finish with the polish. It's a little more work, but the advantage is that the result looks very natural and "perfect"... no chance of orange peel or streaks from a product application.

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    Re: Headlight sealant: spar urethane vs. opti coat 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.fusion View Post
    Yes, some lights can be a pain for sure and some are a breeze. It used to be a lot bigger deal when I was polishing out everything. When using a wipe on or spray on coating (thicker product... not a thin "invisible" sealant like opti-coat etc) it doesn't matter so much because the coating hides most flaws.

    Opti-coat doesn't hide anything though, so it's important to get a nice finish with the polish. It's a little more work, but the advantage is that the result looks very natural and "perfect"... no chance of orange peel or streaks from a product application.
    So you are using the Opti-coat on everything now?

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    Thanks for the pictorial explaination looking forward to the updates. My only try at a restoration was thanks to the other post and came out great. Will pick up some opti and try that route also.

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    Re: Headlight sealant: spar urethane vs. opti coat 2.0

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    Well, I have concluded my original spar urethane longevity test with the two year update. Headlight Restoration-new UV sealant idea And now I am ready to try the unpolished version, and see how long it lasts, but I am testing it head to head against Opti Coat 2.0 to see which lasts the longest. The test car is the same car in my original thread, a 1998 Mercury Grand Marquis that does not get too much washes or wax jobs, plus it sits outside 24/7. The passengers side light will be treated with the Minwax spar urethane(unpolished version) and the drivers side with the Opti coat 2.0.


    Minwax Spar Urethane/mineral spirits VS Opti-coat 2.0

    Here is my step by step process for this test.



    Both lights were washed, and then masked off with painters tape to prevent scratching paint and chrome trim.


    Here is my sandpaper of choice, 1500, 2000 and 3000. Anything more aggressive and it would have been overkill, the old spar urethane treatment is very soft and thin, so it was very easy to remove.


    I use this meguiars sanding backing pad to aid in the wet sanding process.


    I soak all the sand paper in a bucket of water with grit guard. My chosen soap for lubricant is Meguiars hyper wash.


    I soak the light down by spraying water before wet sanding.


    And begin sanding, starting with 1500, 2000 and finish with 3000.


    Close up picture of sanding "slurry" remnants of 2 year old spar urethane.


    Finished sanding.


    Finished sanding.


    Now here is where the whole process changes, the opti coat side needs polished before application and the spar urethane does not and is ready for application now. Here is my polisher of choice for the opti coat side, my dewalt rotary with orange and black pad.


    The compound and polish I used for the opti coat side is Megs M105 and M205.


    And here is the drivers side light after polishing and ready for Opti coat 2.0. But first it needs a wipe down with IPA to remove all polishing oils, and insure a proper bond.


    Here is the finished side of the Opti coated headlight. I applied it with the provided sponge, and basically followed the instruction on the syringe.


    Here is my spar urethane supplies, I use a measuring spoon to make sure I get the 50/50 spar urethane/mineral spirits correctly mixed. I use a plastic wax free cup, and use a pop sicle stick to mix everything up.


    Here is what the mixture looks like.


    And here is my applicator, a blue scotts shop rag folded up.


    I wipe the mixture on side to side with the spar urethane. Remember, I did not polish these lights before applying this sealant as it is not necessary and hopefully provides a better "bite" for the sealant and maybe lasts longer as well.


    And here is the finished Spar urethane side.

    Both lenses look good after the process, but I must say that in my opinion, the spar urethane side looks slightly better than the opti coat side in person. But the real test will be which will last longer. I will keep up on this, and try and take pictures every 3 months and post here, if anyone is still interested. Please keep giving me suggestions on this process, as I am still learning myself. And I encourage other members to do tests like this to get more comparison and get different climates factored in as well.
    which of the spar/mineral spirts u put in the cup first did u put the mineral spirts first or the spar/ or the spar then minerals spirts reason why i ask seems like i done a car and it started to peel off now im begining to thnx i done something wrong or call me 8033208843 reggie
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