19 year old BMW with 3 Interesting Factors

[richy]

Hi richy, the black 3D pad is same as tuff buff (TB manufacturers them for 3D/HD?)

- how was the work time of ChopTop? It is diminishing so the usual 4-6? How was pad gumming up and cleanup ?

As far as AG carrying shine supply, I don't think That would happen. SS has its ecosystem of small scale resellers who offer an agreed upon reselling terms so that it doesn't favour one vendor over the other. Corey is the only exception among the stockists and even he has to abide some restrictions or I should say play nice (no discounts, added shipping etc). Corey told me about it.
This In my understanding doesn't fit PBMG model to resell (the kind of sales and discounts they do) and SS isn't big/in-demand enough to be added to the exception list along with Rupes All this is My opinion though.


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I believe the wool is the same. The stitching on the back of the 3D ones is better, but I've never had one come apart on me and I've been using the TB pads for many years now. It looks like 3D has dropped them however. I can't find them on either the 3D US or Canadian site. They've got some yellow one now. I'm not interested in trying it.

Interesting with the selling of SS stuff. When you Google it, the only hits I got were for Corey's site (which I would rather deal with as I'd be ordering other stuff from him anyway and I hate having to only order one thing and pay shipping for that!). The other retailers need to do a better job of showing up on a search. The working time was great; just like M105 or their Flat Top.

No, the CT did not dry up or get gummy. M101 will do that for me, but CT was better. It was honestly a real pleasure to use. No kidding.

[jonathanss]

You know what? I had forgotten to mention that I also tried something new with this car. Before washing it, I sprayed the top surfaces with white vinegar (100%) out of a spray bottle and let it dwell while I let the bug spray dwell at the same time. It was then rinsed and washed. I didn't do much in terms of lessening them as they were old, but I figured it was worth a try. Yes, to answer your question, the Shine Supply compound effectively and quickly eliminated them. They were MUCH easier to remove than those horrific swirls were.

Whoaaa, thanks for your advice richy! Happy detailing

[sealthedeal]

I believe the wool is the same. The stitching on the back of the 3D ones is better, but I've never had one come apart on me and I've been using the TB pads for many years now. It looks like 3D has dropped them however. I can't find them on either the 3D US or Canadian site. They've got some yellow one now. I'm not interested in trying it.

Interesting with the selling of SS stuff. When you Google it, the only hits I got were for Corey's site (which I would rather deal with as I'd be ordering other stuff from him anyway and I hate having to only order one thing and pay shipping for that!). The other retailers need to do a better job of showing up on a search. The working time was great; just like M105 or their Flat Top.

No, the CT did not dry up or get gummy. M101 will do that for me, but CT was better. It was honestly a real pleasure to use. No kidding.

I personally did not get a good work time with flat top and it dusted pretty much in the first pass and I could hardly see the a trail in the second pass. I however used it on MF pads and that I worked out the outside (shade but warm weather) and later learned flat top wasn't designed to work on the outside (it is designed to be dry and 2-3 pass work time to work quick) but use of MF/outer condition reduced that to almost one pass for me.

With m101 I mix d300 and that reduces dusting significantly and increases work time (does reduce cut though a bit).

Will be interesting to see how CT fares against MenzSC 300 as the price point of SC300 is really nice getting from PBMG (even the 8oz version).

As with foam pad options, you should give the scholl concepts navy blue spider a try. It's a very stiff pad and gives Great cut and finish. Available from Corey so grab one to try. Equally good on rotary and DA.

The BnS low pro pads I hear work great on a 3401. I have its green one and find it very sturdy and strong build but haven't put it to use yet.


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[richy]

Thanks

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