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Re: Klasse AIO alternative...time to buy again
Originally Posted by TroyScherer
If you are trying to replace Klasse AIO I the best options in my opinion are Werkstat Prime & Prime Strong. They are updated versions of the original KAIO. They are even easier to use and work better for me.
A few other chemical cleaner options are Ultima paint prep, p21s GEP, Prima Amigo.
Troy, Werkstat products work superbly and I love their Acrylic Jett Trigger sealant...
BobbyG - 2004 Millennium Yellow Z06 Corvette
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Re: Klasse AIO alternative...time to buy again
Originally Posted by volrus
I've only ever used the Klasse AIO, not the SG. I've always heard the SG was difficult to work with and I'm not the most patient of people and tend to use more product than I should (bad habit that I can't seem to break).
Klasse AIO is the perfect base for Klasse HGSG...
You should try it...Not too difficult to apply/remove...IMHO.
Bob
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Meg's D151 and DG501 are also good choices for AIO's.
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Re: Klasse AIO alternative...time to buy again
Originally Posted by volrus
I've only ever used the Klasse AIO, not the SG. I've always heard the SG was difficult to work with and I'm not the most patient of people and tend to use more product than I should (bad habit that I can't seem to break).
I think we've all experienced issues with this sealant at one time or another and the key is to apply it super thin......
It was either Scott or Nick tried something that seemed to work well and shared it with the rest of us...so I too gave it a try....Shake the product well and pour some in a 4 ounce spray bottle. Give the section a couple of sprays then buff off with a microfiber towel...
So simple and it works splendidly.....
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I've been using the Klasse twins since 2005 and if KSG is too hard to deal with its because your using too much! The place I used to get my detailing products from told me how to properly use KSG and here's the deal. After using the KAIO on the car you take your applicator (I prefer a cotton square) and dunk it in some water and wring it out so its just damp. Then you'll wanna pour some KSG in a small spray bottle and spray 1 squirt onto your damp applicator, maybe 2 depending upon how it sprays, you'll be able to determine this at the time of use. Once you begin, do a section at a time and WOWO, that's it. From time to time you should dunk your applicator and wring out once again, keeps it clean and damp. Once your done you'll notice the "bling" right away but its also suggested to add another coat 12 hrs later and let me tell you that when you do, well, you'll be rewarded with an awesome finsih and monthes of protection. Oh and BTW if you find you've used too much in a spot, no problem, just go back over it with your damp applicator.
Klasse Sealant Glaze is one of the forgotten gems on the market IMO and while I'm thinking of it, you can also add 1 oz of KSG into your rinseless wash made up to be a quick detailer to give a legit "boost" too, I do!
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Re: Klasse AIO alternative...time to buy again
Thanks everyone, excellent feedback! Sounds like I've got a couple of really good options to try. I see a large order in my future.
For you guys that use Klasse (AIO or the SG), do you use any type of paste with it or would that be a waste?
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Re: Klasse AIO alternative...time to buy again
Originally Posted by volrus
Thanks everyone, excellent feedback! Sounds like I've got a couple of really good options to try. I see a large order in my future.
For you guys that use Klasse (AIO or the SG), do you use any type of paste with it or would that be a waste?
I don't do it too often...
But I have been known to "waste"/apply a film layer of:
Paste-carnuba wax/hybrid carnuba wax... atop the cured Klasse HGSG film-layer(s):
M26; S100/P21S; 3M Show Car; Optimum Car Wax; etc.
Boils down to personal choice more often than not.
Bob
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Just mixed up some Klasse HGS with ONR at clay lube dilution. Left the section of the panel I tested it on very slick. Thanks Klasse, for reminding of Klasse's versatility. No pun intended.
When I first started detailing for money I used the Klasse twins like I use Opti-Coat now. I thought it had the best gloss and durability, and very economical. The way metallic paints really pop with Klasse twins is second to non for me when it comes to ease of use and cost; so little product goes so far. And if you are working by hand it is a great system IMO since WOWO is the way to go with Klasse. If you want a wetter look with Klasse then I would say any soft, wowo carnauba wax would do the trick but, a wax that favors your paint color may do an even better job. A lot is just up to what your eyes see and the environment you see you car in the most.
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Re: Klasse AIO alternative...time to buy again
So from what I'm hearing, it sounds like the Klasse twins are 1) not as difficult to apply as I thought and 2) provide an excellent look. Like I said, I've used the AIO religiously, just never anything over top of it.
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Re: Klasse AIO alternative...time to buy again
I use the twins and after I apply the hgsg I usually top it off with a carauba for added protection. I dint really see any more shine or wetness to it, after using two coats of hgsg it looks shiny enough. Give the hgsg a shot with the spray bottle technique.
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