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    Re: Griot's Black Shine

    •Technically/Scientifically speaking:
    There are silicon-based dressings,
    and other products. For example:

    -Silicones/(Siloxanes) Fluids/Oils are
    made from Silicon and Oxygen atoms...
    {aka: polydiorganosiloxanes}


    •Most water-based and solvent-based
    "dressings" contain Silicone Fluids/Oils

    -In Solvent-based dressings...Silicone
    fluids readily dissolve in the solvents

    -In Water-based dressings...Silicone
    fluids are suspended in an emulsion
    (Otherwise: Oils & Water wouldn't mix)



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    Re: Griot's Black Shine

    Quote Originally Posted by True North View Post
    That Griot's product looks identical to their Undercarriage Spray. I wonder if they are one and the same.
    the black shine tire gel and spray look almost the same as well, the spray just seems a little more watered down (which means a little less shine) so it can be used with a trigger. just drove over a hundred miles today with the tire shine spray i applied last night and there was no sling as i checked around the vehicle when i got home. i like this both these versions a lot more than let's say megs endurance gel which is IMO is gooey mess...

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    Re: Griot's Black Shine

    Check out this video where Griot's Garage specifies that the "Black Shine" family of dressings is silicon based starting at the 1:45 time marker.



    Quote Originally Posted by NickZ28 View Post
    Excellent mini review! Is the product water or silicone based? Looks great!
    Please see my response above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rsurfer View Post
    Can't silicon based dressings be water based?
    I think it's either one or the other but I'm not 100% certain. Please check the video above.
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    Re: Griot's Black Shine

    Thanks Marc, very helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickZ28 View Post
    Thanks Marc, very helpful
    My pleasure Nick. Glad to hear it helped. I remember hearing that the "Black Shine" was silicon based when I watched that video last week..
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    Re: Griot's Black Shine

    I'm going to call Meguiars tomorrow morning just for fun to see what they say

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    Re: Griot's Black Shine

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    I'm going to call Meguiars tomorrow morning just for fun to see what they say
    Could it be that when you called a while ago silicone based wasn't a thing? Perhaps now products advanced? Just thinking out loud, or they just lied to you the first time around because it was a slow day at the office? Griot's Black Shine


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    Re: Griot's Black Shine

    Quote Originally Posted by True North View Post
    That Griot's product looks identical to their Undercarriage Spray. I wonder if they are one and the same.
    I wondered the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmb5450 View Post
    Could it be that when you called a while ago silicone based wasn't a thing? Perhaps now products advanced? Just thinking out loud, or they just lied to you the first time around because it was a slow day at the office? Griot's Black Shine


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    I'm not saying anyone's wrong, I'd just like to know why the Meguiars guy was so adamant about things not being silicone based. Maybe there's another term according to them or him..

    As far as him having a bad day? I'm sure that was the case because during that time I phoned Meguiars maybe 3-4 times in a span of a couple of months and would always get the same guy on the line, and for all the great customer service I've experienced with Meguiars, this guy was exception. Dude was rude and argumentative with me every time. For example I once called because I had some questions about their tire products and at the end I simply asked him which 1 of the 2 had been released 1st/which 1 was the older product, and he replied "why do you care about that"? It's funny now, but it p***** me off when it happened...

    Another time I called and got the same guy. I asked if it'd be ok to use D180 Leather Cleaner & Conditioner on my rubber weatherstripping, his response was "why would you use that on the weatherstripping"?! Which lead to me saying "well you can use it on leather, vinyl, plastic and was just curious how it would do on the rubber" He got all mad and recommended I use M40... Then I said "well I don't have any M40, what about Hyper Dressing"? His response was so funny because I could hear it in his voice that he was about to try and scold me once again, but he stopped himself and said "yyea, I guess you could use that"

    He was a young kid, and I'd be surprised if he still has the job. If I was in charge and heard him speaking to customers the way he did to me I would've fired him a long time ago.

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    Re: Griot's Black Shine

    what do they say - believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see

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