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Re: Not happy with Griots/Menz result...
BLK,
I PM'ed BobbyG. Here's what he had to say:
"The clears on Corvettes are especially hard from the factory and also very thin. Make sure he didn't break through the clear.
It certainly won't hurt to give the Meguiar's product you have a try..
Depending on the damage he did you might need to begin with Menzerna Power Gloss and bump up the speed to 5 with an Orange foam pad.
Menzerna Power Finish PO203 is a bit less aggressive and I'd probably start here with a White Pad.
Menzerna Super Finish PO106FA is a real favorite of mine. This has a 2.5 / 5 for the cut to gloss ratio. Use this with a gray and blue pad on a DA ."
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Re: Not happy with Griots/Menz result...
Thanks for the in-depth write up Bobby.
I have ordered the stuff you (and Heavy) recommended.
I did not break thru the clear anywhere- I actually am a certified PPG/DuPont refinisher so I'm fairly knowledgeable about clear coat and paint systems. Obviously, I'm not a professional detailer but both PPG and DuPont require training on wet-sanding and buffing (rotary) before certification is issued.
I have a buddy with a ABS/Plastic paint thickness gauge and I plan on taking some readings on my car when I get time. Its more of a curiosity thing.
I've also had some conversations with some Bowling Green techs, and they informed me that the newer 2009-up Vettes have roughly 2 coats of clear on any major panel- which is sufficent thickness mil-wise to do minor 2000 grit sanding if neccessary.
Just an FYI- in case you were curious.
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Re: Not happy with Griots/Menz result...
Originally Posted by BLKZ06
Thanks for the in-depth write up Bobby.
I have ordered the stuff you (and Heavy) recommended.
I did not break thru the clear anywhere- I actually am a certified PPG/DuPont refinisher so I'm fairly knowledgeable about clear coat and paint systems. Obviously, I'm not a professional detailer but both PPG and DuPont require training on wet-sanding and buffing (rotary) before certification is issued.
I have a buddy with a ABS/Plastic paint thickness gauge and I plan on taking some readings on my car when I get time. Its more of a curiosity thing.
I've also had some conversations with some Bowling Green techs, and they informed me that the newer 2009-up Vettes have roughly 2 coats of clear on any major panel- which is sufficent thickness mil-wise to do minor 2000 grit sanding if neccessary.
Just an FYI- in case you were curious.
Awesome and congratulations!!
Great to hear and thank you for posting.
I'm glad GM's decided to add a bit more clear to an $80,000 dollar car, I mean this is not the time or the place to be cheap... Thank you again..
BobbyG - 2004 Millennium Yellow Z06 Corvette
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Re: Not happy with Griots/Menz result...
Originally Posted by BobbyG
Awesome and congratulations!!
Great to hear and thank you for posting.
I'm glad GM's decided to add a bit more clear to an $80,000 dollar car, I mean this is not the time or the place to be cheap... Thank you again..
Thanks for your recommendations!
I plan on updating this thread as soon as my new Menz stuff gets here.
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Re: Not happy with Griots/Menz result...
Just food for thought...
I've had excellent results with Meguiars M105 and M205 with both a Flex P-14 rotary and GG6 DA using the Kevin Brown Method.
GG6 DA:
M105/LC orange 5.5" flat/speed 5-5.5/15lb pressure/1" per second arm speed. (2-3 pad rotations ped second)
M205/LC white 5.5" flat/Speed 4-5/10lb pressure/1"-2" per second arm speed. (4-5 pad rotations ped second)
Menz PO85/LC black 5.5" flat/Speed 4-5//10lb pressure/1"-2" per second arm speed. (4-5 pad rotations ped second)
Follow that with Menz Top Inspection check/wipe down then three coats of Z-2 with ZFX. This is my GoTo combo that works for me.
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Re: Not happy with Griots/Menz result...
Most Vettes I've done have been in decent shape. I go straight to SIP/orange/rotary then 85RD/black/DA.
Anything deeper and I do 105/orange/rotary with 85RD/black/DA.
Do a test spot when your products arrive.
There is vast amounts of knowledge at your fingertips, use Google, Youtube, and the search button.
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Re: Not happy with Griots/Menz result...
I used the 85rd on my black vette and was not all that impressed - plus I had to buy a liter of it
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Originally Posted by maxniman
I used the 85rd on my black vette and was not all that impressed - plus I had to buy a liter of it
It would be nice if it came in a smaller size. I had great results with 85rd. I've never had a bad experience with any Menz product
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Re: Not happy with Griots/Menz result...
I have as well had great results with the Menz line, I use SIP with orange, 106 with white, and PO85rd with blue LC CCS pads. Car comes out looking amazing.
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