Lets discuss Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion

**TimmyG** · 04-28-2012, 07:42 AM

I've heard plenty of positive reviews for this product. I've even heard people mention that on a white paint job, it's a must. Does anyone else feel this way? Why or why not? I'm currently working on a trashed arctic white 1996 firebird formula convertible with tons of swirls and rids. They're slowly but surely being removed and I'm just curious if I can use this cleansing lotion to my advantage before applying a sealant and topping with a paste wax.

Please advise!

**TornadoRed** · 04-28-2012, 07:50 AM

I like it but I'm not sure it's a must. I use it to remove an LSP if I'm not going to polish. If I'm going to polish, I skip that step and use Griot's Pre-Wax Cleanser instead (or IPA).
Another less expensive and arguably better option would be Duragloss 501.

**TimmyG** · 04-28-2012, 07:53 AM

Thanks for the feedback.

So in your opinion, does this cleansing lotion have any place in a full paint correction?

**TornadoRed** · 04-28-2012, 08:51 AM

In my opinion... no.

**Motrecrerbnom** · 02-24-2013, 01:52 AM

just placed my order. This is a great deal, 20 off, a 20 gift certificate and free paste wax. Although when I placed my order it did not say anything about the paste wax, does that mean I was not one of the first 500, or does it not say anything, but is still shipped with the order?

**cleanmycorolla** · 02-24-2013, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Motrecrerbnom

just placed my order. This is a great deal, 20 off, a 20 gift certificate and free paste wax. Although when I placed my order it did not say anything about the paste wax, does that mean I was not one of the first 500, or does it not say anything, but is still shipped with the order?

I think you're discussing a deal thats been long over...

**TimmyG** · 04-28-2012, 09:21 AM

Thanks for your honest response!

I suppose I'm most interested in prewax cleansers and what place they have in the detailing world. I've been looking at the Pinnacle, WG, GG, and Dodo cleansers and I suppose I'm simply confused on if I even need one or not. My thought was that a prewax cleanser was similar to an IPA wipedown - rid the surface off all polishing oils left behind so that you're waxing/sealing a pure surface. Maybe my interpretation is off?

I'm simply trying to give my arctic white paint the best correction possible. White is definitely a crappy color to learn to detail on, so I'm trying to get the most gloss possible.

So far, here is the work performed.

Dawn wash w/ Two bucket method (grit guards, etc)
Iron-X , Tar-X Application (followed by good rinse and dry)
Clay (Megs Clay Kit - removed a good amount of contaminents)
M105/D300 on Megs 5" Cutting Disc/LC 5.5" Orange
M205 on LC 5.5" White

The above is currently complete. Planning on applying some PO85RD next. Am I missing anything?

**dougaross** · 04-28-2012, 09:36 AM

P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser

S100 Shine Enhancing Cleanser

These two products are virtually the same, except S100 is less expensive. I have not used Pinnacle which seems to be the flavor du jour. But these are both excellent and I have used S100 for years.(Available at your local Harley Shop)

BTW I am a big fan DG501/601 but it leaves a layer of sealant which may be desirable if you are going to top with something Collinite 845 which will give you protection for the better part of a year.

**TimmyG** · 04-28-2012, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by dougaross

P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser

S100 Shine Enhancing Cleanser

These two products are virtually the same, except S100 is less expensive. I have not used Pinnacle which seems to be the flavor du jour. But these are both excellent and I have used S100 for years.(Available at your local Harley Shop)

BTW I am a big fan DG501/601 but it leaves a layer of sealant which may be desirable if you are going to top with something Collinite 845 which will give you protection for the better part of a year.

I've looked at both of these products and I'm truly wondering if I even need a prewax product. I've looked at the Griots Garage cleaner, Pinnacle, P21s, etc. Just not sure if I need one of not. Would an IPA wipedown/CarPro Eraser application suffice?

I don't want to comprimise on quality here. If a prewax cleanser gives me a better, glossier finish at the end, then I'll order one.

**Jaretr1** · 04-28-2012, 09:57 AM

I also have a white fbody I am working on. White is so tough to deal with because its so hard to see what I am doing as I work. I have done a few panels with similar combo to youre using above and I got about an 80% correction. I am going to try to add in poor boys white diamond glaze before I apply the lsp on the next panel to see if that makes a difference.