When Did This Get So Complicated?

[Setec Astronomy]

I'm sitting here tonight looking at the newb threads, and realizing that although we have so many great products today, which make detailing so much easier than a dozen years ago (which is when I came to the forum world), it's gotta be so much more complicated for a newb, because there are SO many products now.

I mean, a dozen years ago, if you wanted to machine polish, you most likely weren't going to go with a rotary, so there was one machine: the original PC. There weren't any CCS pads, foamed wool, microfiber, there were flat pads, and there were less colors than today, and there was pretty much one diameter...I mean nobody even talked about pad diameter. Most people used Meg's 80-series polishes, there was 3M, and a few people used Menzerna (but there were much fewer choices, just PG, IP, and FPII...oh, and FMJ )

Anyway, it's not like there weren't a lot of choices back then, there were just so many fewer, it seemed like there were less brands..I dunno, maybe because we didn't have the PBMG superstores then. I can just see how newbs today get utterly confused, it was confusing enough back in the day...

[ronkh57]

[ScottB]

Just think about what's coming also ....

[jamesboyy]

I couldn't agree with you more so very true Sectec Astronomy

[Docpeanut]

As confusing as it may be for a new comer, they have the benefit of this awesome community. Many that came before did not have this and had to learn by trial and error.

[JeffM]

I'm sitting here tonight looking at the newb threads, and realizing that although we have so many great products today, which make detailing so much easier than a dozen years ago (which is when I came to the forum world), it's gotta be so much more complicated for a newb, because there are SO many products now.

I mean, a dozen years ago, if you wanted to machine polish, you most likely weren't going to go with a rotary, so there was one machine: the original PC. There weren't any CCS pads, foamed wool, microfiber, there were flat pads, and there were less colors than today, and there was pretty much one diameter...I mean nobody even talked about pad diameter. Most people used Meg's 80-series polishes, there was 3M, and a few people used Menzerna (but there were much fewer choices, just PG, IP, and FPII...oh, and FMJ )

Anyway, it's not like there weren't a lot of choices back then, there were just so many fewer, it seemed like there were less brands..I dunno, maybe because we didn't have the PBMG superstores then. I can just see how newbs today get utterly confused, it was confusing enough back in the day...

And the haters hated on Zaino because of alllllll the steps it took....like prepping the paint naked for z2p. Like seriously, thats child play now.

[dlc95]

Even since 09 when I first started lurking, it's grown a lot.

[Setec Astronomy]

And the haters hated on Zaino because of alllllll the steps it took....like prepping the paint naked for z2p. Like seriously, thats child play now.

LOL, that is so funny! Yeah, all that Zaino stuff, and to a lesser degree, the Klasse regimen, are simple compared to when you get into coatings and flash time and high spots.

[vobro]

I agree, we have polish that are sealants,glaze that are actually polishes, wax that are really sealants, different mf towels etc. Now throw in Menzerna changing labels and names of their line, DP gone and all the hype/hidden marketing of the new line, ongoing Optimum name changes of their coatings and the overwhelming amount of different pad sizes and colors. Even for an avid reader of this forum, if your away for say a month you really have to "catch up". I guess the best advice I can give a newb is to read here and ask for help. Help in the form of how and why and to avoid the "what's the best....", or "I spent a pretty penny on my ....". I have to say as a forum almost everyone is willing to help or at least chime in a suggestion

[vobro]

I also think that CG has hit a grand slam with their marketing, although redundant to most of us. You need to clean floor mats? They have Floor Mat cleaner! They make it easy for a newb