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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Klasse Act View Post
    Speaking of the MINI Monica, did you see they've come out with a new JCW for the F56? It has 228 hp!! I built one on the MINI site and it came out to about $38K. I bet with an intake and tune that car should easily get over 250 hp!!! I don't think I'll see too many around here but if I do, I'll back down as that car would trounce me

    Oh and BTW, I picked a cool new green for it too, white roof and mirrors, what else, LOL!
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    1. That number is at the crank. My 2006 (that cost 24K brand new in 2006 and that I bought for way less than that in 2011) had 240 at the crank, and 210 at the wheels. And these were tested dyno numbers.

    2. There is no TUNE. The JCW is it. BMW locked the ECU down (back in 2012?) What you get is it with those. Plus you really don't want to mess with those engines. They aren't reliable.

    They are a waste of money.
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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

    The R53's made between 157-162 but the JCWs made 218. Using the same method the new one has 10 more but ALOT more torques!

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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

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    The R53's made between 157-162 but the JCWs made 218. Using the same method the new one has 10 more but ALOT more torques!

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    Stock tune made that,yes.
    I bought a tune for $350 and was up to 240. So I was still under $20K making more HP. If I really wanted, I could have dropped a few Ks to beef up the internals and had been well over 300hp (my engine has been proven to handle 400hp). Still spending over 10K less than the new ones. Sorry, I'm not impressed and would NEVER own a new MINI.
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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

    I agree Monica and as you know now, I was going stock for stock.

    I bet the next Abarth will be closer to 200 HP and probably get direct injection, we'll see.

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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

    I want a 6sp clubman SOOOO bad.
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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

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    I agree Monica and as you know now, I was going stock for stock.

    I bet the next Abarth will be closer to 200 HP and probably get direct injection, we'll see.

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    Is the Abarth Port Injection now? That's a good thing- less carbon buildup issues
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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

    It's called Multi-Air and I'm not sure how it works, just what it's called. I need to make 20 psi and let it drop down to about 17 psi....POWAAH!

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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

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    It's called Multi-Air and I'm not sure how it works, just what it's called. I need to make 20 psi and let it drop down to about 17 psi....POWAAH!

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    Well it would be a shame if they went DI. I looked up MA and it took Fiat ten years and 100million dollars to develop.
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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

    You guys are really bad influences. I am now thinking of getting ready of my Volvo S60 2.5t for a V70R. Just because everyone needs a 150 mph station wagon.

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    Re: Thinking about trading in the CR-Z for a Fiat 500 Abarth, thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by whavens View Post
    You guys are really bad influences. I am now thinking of getting ready of my Volvo S60 2.5t for a V70R. Just because everyone needs a 150 mph station wagon.

    Walter
    Is that a 5 cylinder like the S60R wagon? Love the sound of a 5 cylinder! Watched a vid on YouTube (EVO channel) and they had the new RS3 on there it had a 5 pot, AWESOME EXHAUST NOTE!

    Hope you get that ride👍

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