Thank you Mike Phillips

**noorth** · 09-10-2021, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by dwaleke

"It's fun to work with the maker, not the faker." - Mike Phillips

I wonder what the backstory is on that.

Looks like maybe a reference to other social media promoters.

I think he referring to the fact 3D makes their own stuff in house. I don't know if they make everything they sell but apparently most if not all the products. I'm no insider but its possible the exception would be the ceramic coating and touch. Only a few places in the world make coatings. Korean, UK i think, Germany, Japan i also "think" and i'm not sure of America. Mike, The Guz has mentioned B&B Blending in the states. Not sure if they actually make the raw SIO2 or just blend it.

Caveat: This is purely speculation

**PaulMys** · 09-10-2021, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by noorth

I think he referring to the fact 3D makes their own stuff in house. I don't know if they make everything they sell but apparently most if not all the products. I'm no insider but its possible the exception would be the ceramic coating and touch. Only a few places in the world make coatings. Korean, UK i think, Germany, Japan i also "think" and i'm not sure of America. Mike, The Guz has mentioned B&B Blending in the states. Not sure if they actually make the raw SIO2 or just blend it.

Caveat: This is purely speculation

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any detail company that makes 100% of their offerings "in house". Wether it be liquids, pads, coatings, or even machine polishers.

That still does not change the fact that there are companies like 3D (and a few others) that stand out amongst the rest.

**noorth** · 09-10-2021, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by PaulMys

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any detail company that makes 100% of their offerings "in house". Wether it be liquids, pads, coatings, or even machine polishers.

That still does not change the fact that there are companies like 3D (and a few others) that stand out amongst the rest.

For sure, its just speculation. 3D as always been one of the companies i default to and carpro/gyeon stuff. Mckee's got my attention this year as well.

**dlc95** · 09-10-2021, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by noorth

I think he referring to the fact 3D makes their own stuff in house. I don't know if they make everything they sell but apparently most if not all the products. I'm no insider but its possible the exception would be the ceramic coating and touch. Only a few places in the world make coatings. Korean, UK i think, Germany, Japan i also "think" and i'm not sure of America. Mike, The Guz has mentioned B&B Blending in the states. Not sure if they actually make the raw SIO2 or just blend it.

Caveat: This is purely speculation

Tunch has stated that he played with their coating formula.

They're a chemical manufacturing company, who does private labeling for others.

Optimum coatings are made in the States as well.

**RPM_BR** · 09-10-2021, 11:19 PM

Wow.
I don’t know if AGO will recover from it. Hope it will, fingers crossed. But it is like losing Tom Brady.
He was/is so important for the field, like a codifier, put things on simple terms, straight to the point.
But I’m just a guy from another continent, and was he ever important to my career.
Godspeed, Mike brother

**custmsprty** · 09-13-2021, 10:18 PM

The maker refers to the actual manufacturer. The faker buys from the maker and has it labeled with their labels, it's called co packing.

I've been selling packaging for 30 years and call on manufacturers like 3D, they do the actual blending, packing and shipping.

I've been a 3d fan for many years, I always believed the other AIO's that came after Speed were copies or slight changes and I still do LOL.

**Dano shine** · 12-04-2021, 07:56 AM

Wow, I haven’t been around due to COVID crap but I will miss Mike and so sorry this come this late. But Mike I wish you and your family well and best luck. Thanks for everything.