What's everyone's thoughts on the Covid-19 situation?

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I really am enjoying this thread from the simple fact that we're having a "conversation" without shutting anybody down that has a different opinion from our own. It's a respectful and honest conversation, which is extremely rare in todays environment.

I am so tired of watching the talking heads on TV and politicians say..."we need to have a conversation about X" and no one will or can have a conversation without spewing disrespect, hatred, racism, etc. This thread does get a little heated, which is fine but it's also based on respect.

As for my view, I'm vaxed, my wife is not, my daughter is not and has had covid twice...first time she was asymptomatic and second felt a little bad for a few days...her neurologist and cardiologist both recommended that she not get the vax based on her condition.

I do not believe in mandates, I do not wear a mask unless the place I'm going to requires it, I think Fauci has had his time and now it's time to go, President Biden has botched a few things especially recently with his view on the unvaxxed saying you're going to die (Merry F'ing Christmas)...can you imagine if Trump said that...they would impeach him again!

Like I said, I really enjoy this thread because we are having a conversation....FINALLY!

I'll crawl back under my rock now...with my bbq though!


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Like I said, I really enjoy this thread because we are having a conversation....FINALLY!

I'll crawl back under my rock now...with my bbq though!

Here here. And I just got finished eating my wife's BBQ ribs and they were spectacular. Now what were we arguing about? I forgot now that I'm full. :)
 
Guys dont forget to pull your mask back up afterwards sorry couldn't help it

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The United Soviet Social Repulic aka Chicago, just mandated anyone going into most business' have to show proof of vaccination Jan of 2022. I'm a delivery driver and have numerous customers in Chicago, if I have to get the shot to preserve my livelihood I'm going to fukckin' pissed off! Putting me in that position isn't right, the vaccine doesn't stop any spread and/or protect me from anyone or viceversa...TOTAL BS.

"EXUSE ME DIETER, ARE YOUR PAPERS IN ORDER!"

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The United Soviet Social Repulic aka Chicago, just mandated anyone going into most business' have to show proof of vaccination Jan of 2022. I'm a delivery driver and have numerous customers in Chicago, if I have to get the shot to preserve my livelihood I'm going to fukckin' pissed off! Putting me in that position isn't right, the vaccine doesn't stop any spread and/or protect me from anyone or viceversa...TOTAL BS.

"EXUSE ME DIETER, ARE YOUR PAPERS IN ORDER!"

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Im sorry if you end up having to go through with that.

Is this not segregation? OR is this not discrimination?

That is an honest question. Im mean sweet f*ck....haven't we as a nation fought to end that #### decades ago??!!



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Funny that a Covid post has more post on any recently started thread than any thread car or detail related on Autogeek

I’m gonna go on the CovidGeek Forum and post a detail related thread and see if the same phenomen occurs.

#detailingconspiracytheories


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Funny that a Covid post has more post on any recently started thread than any thread car or detail related on Autogeek

I’m gonna go on the CovidGeek Forum and post a detail related thread and see if the same phenomen occurs.

#detailingconspiracytheories


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Here's a starter post....Graphene, fact or fiction

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Guys dont forget to pull your mask back up afterwards sorry couldn't help it

I don’t wear a mask but unlike some that say they don’t work AT ALL, I found an area where they do work.

I was going through a drive thru and the first window I went to, the person collecting cash had a mask and I thought, well, that would protect me some from their emissions. The woman at the window where I picked up my food had the mask under her nose so not as much protection from her but if she spoke, it would reduce the distance with which her breath would carry.

So in that limited case, the cloth masks would result in me getting less emissions (germs) from the employees. However, the masks would not do anything to protect them from the other people in the restaurant where they work in close proximity for hours.

So masks can help some. Are they a panacea; definitely not and were never meant to be.

And I'm really not speaking so much of Covid, just the fact that when people speak, they release and spread a lot of germs. I'm not suggesting by any means that we should wear masks on a daily basis but it sure would cut down on germs spread by individuals speaking to each other in close proximity. It is a little nasty when you think about it that someone else's germs end up in our mouths and vice versa.
Speaking Spreads Exhaled Droplets - YouTube
 
Here's a starter post....Graphene, fact or fiction

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I feel it doesn’t add anything but they are using it in good products. 303 and Adam’s spray coating would be just a good of product without it.

Starting to think these sio2 sealants with 1-10% sio2 would probably just as good with out sio2


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There was talk of a recurring fall vaccine with the ability to ward off various coronavirus and flu variants but I thought that would be further away. Sounds like that’s closer than we think though they seem to be taking a traditional serial approach to the Phase 2 and Phase 3 trials instead of the parallel testing of our current vaccines.

Interesting quote, is that people are either going to all be vaccinated and/or all will have been infected. No way to hide from the variants.
 
Hello,

I don't understand how receiving the shot matters if you are making a delivery. I believe in wearing a quality mask but it shouldn't matter if your just making a delivery. Isn't this the point of getting the shot, you won't get the virus? Why would someone care if you ran in and dropped of your delivery?

This virus is very serious. My dad is in the hospital (not with covid) and they are only allowing one person per day because of covid so I get it. But every day that goes by something is telling me were going about this wrong.
 
I don’t wear a mask but unlike some that say they don’t work AT ALL, I found an area where they do work.

I was going through a drive thru and the first window I went to, the person collecting cash had a mask and I thought, well, that would protect me some from their emissions. The woman at the window where I picked up my food had the mask under her nose so not as much protection from her but if she spoke, it would reduce the distance with which her breath would carry.

So in that limited case, the cloth masks would result in me getting less emissions (germs) from the employees. However, the masks would not do anything to protect them from the other people in the restaurant where they work in close proximity for hours.

So masks can help some. Are they a panacea; definitely not and were never meant to be.

And I'm really not speaking so much of Covid, just the fact that when people speak, they release and spread a lot of germs. I'm not suggesting by any means that we should wear masks on a daily basis but it sure would cut down on germs spread by individuals speaking to each other in close proximity. It is a little nasty when you think about it that someone else's germs end up in our mouths and vice versa.
Speaking Spreads Exhaled Droplets - YouTube

IMO, I believe that is one of the problems that the CDC etc has told people so many varying versions of mask wearing. It helps reduce the virus levels in the air because it helps contain the droplets etc. If they would have just kept to that, mask wearing suggestions would have been a much different animal for people. Even the true N95 masks can easily have leakage around the sides if not tight to the face. Also true for peeps like me with beards lol.
 
Hello,

I don't understand how receiving the shot matters if you are making a delivery. I believe in wearing a quality mask but it shouldn't matter if your just making a delivery. Isn't this the point of getting the shot, you won't get the virus? Why would someone care if you ran in and dropped of your delivery?

This virus is very serious. My dad is in the hospital (not with covid) and they are only allowing one person per day because of covid so I get it. But every day that goes by something is telling me were going about this wrong.

It doesn't matter in actuality, just ment to make some feel powerful, to have control over ppl.

What is a quality mask to you? They are a symbol of control and that is it. Otherwise the world would have been wearing these face diapers everywhere every cold and flu season.

Listen, if masks worked....then why didnt the hospitals hand them out (n95, not cloth or paper ones)to their workers in the beginning?? Instead it was....just wear a surgical paper mask you'll be fine. That is a fact fyi. And dont say its because there was a shortage of them...bs.

And i hope you were being sarcastic about the shot preventing you from getting covid.

The virus is serious.....for some, not all. More worrisome for older folks, overweight folks and those with comorbidities.

Breakthroughs are so normal now that they shouldn't even be called breakthroughs. Its happening more than the powers to be are letting on

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It doesn't matter in actuality, just ment to make some feel powerful, to have control over ppl.

What is a quality mask to you? They are a symbol of control and that is it. Otherwise the world would have been wearing these face diapers everywhere every cold and flu season.

Listen, if masks worked....then why didnt the hospitals hand them out (n95, not cloth or paper ones)to their workers in the beginning?? Instead it was....just wear a surgical paper mask you'll be fine. That is a fact fyi. And dont say its because there was a shortage of them...bs.

And i hope you were being sarcastic about the shot preventing you from getting covid.

The virus is serious.....for some, not all. More worrisome for older folks, overweight folks and those with comorbidities.

Breakthroughs are so normal now that they shouldn't even be called breakthroughs. Its happening more than the powers to be are letting on

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In Asia they wear masks all the time. Studies have shown they reduce the viral load, but are not 100% effective. Flu was non existent last year, likely due to people wearing them. I've been wearing K95, which are good but not as good as 95s.

I have no issue wearing a mask and would prefer NOT to get sick, even if it's only a cold of flu. Has nothing to do with making some feel powerful. Sounds like Alex Jones speak. Maybe for some but not most.

If I can still spread the virus, but reduce that spread by masking up, I'll mask up. I'm also thinking about others when I'm out not just myself.

The fact that it was made a political issue is really pathetic IMO. If wearing a mask for 40 mins in a supermarket is a big deal to you, then don't wear one. Who are the true snowflakes? It blows my mind when I see people crying about wearing a mask for an hour in a store. OH MY GOD YOUR LIFE IS SO TOUGH. LOL Usually coming from the same people telling others to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They wouldn't last one day in really tough times....

I agree with you the virus is serious for some, not all. Fauci really messed up when he originally said no mask then flipped.

Normalizing Community Mask-Wearing: A Cluster Randomized Trial in Bangladesh | NBER
 
In Asia they wear masks all the time. Studies have shown they reduce the viral load, but are not 100% effective. Flu was non existent last year, likely due to people wearing them. I've been wearing K95, which are good but not as good as 95s.

I have no issue wearing a mask and would prefer NOT to get sick, even if it's only a cold of flu. Has nothing to do with making some feel powerful. Sounds like Alex Jones speak. Maybe for some but not most.

If I can still spread the virus, but reduce that spread by masking up, I'll mask up. I'm also thinking about others when I'm out not just myself.

The fact that it was made a political issue is really pathetic IMO. If wearing a mask for 40 mins in a supermarket is a big deal to you, then don't wear one. Who are the true snowflakes? It blows my mind when I see people crying about wearing a mask for an hour in a store. OH MY GOD YOUR LIFE IS SO TOUGH. LOL Usually coming from the same people telling others to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. They wouldn't last one day in really tough times....

I agree with you the virus is serious for some, not all. Fauci really messed up when he originally said no mask then flipped.

Normalizing Community Mask-Wearing: A Cluster Randomized Trial in Bangladesh | NBER
Oh shitt, do you live in asia? I always wondered the true reasons they wear them.

Yeah and other studies say otherwise.

If you honestly think that the flu was non existent last year likely due to mask wearing....then i believe you should remove your mask for a minute to let air get to your brain. Lol

Honestly not trying to be rude, just realistic.

If the folks that whine about wearing a mask in a store or anything actually had a backbone....they would just chose to go somewhere else. Its that simple





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I love the stats you read about that the flu was down 80-90% last flu season due to masks.......this ideology is SCARY stupid from the powers to be.
It's as though you can't even make that stat up and have a 3 year old fooled.....

anyway....carry on....

BTW.....this just in...


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The Effect of Mask Use on the Spread of Influenza During a Pandemic

Again I don't know if masks were why flu rates were low last winter, but some studies suggest it was due to masks.

"In conclusion, the population‐wide use of face masks can be a valuable strategy to delay or contain an influenza pandemic, or at least decrease the infection attack rate. We therefore strongly recommend including the use of face masks within pandemic control guidelines."
 
Oh shitt, do you live in asia? I always wondered the true reasons they wear them.

Yeah and other studies say otherwise.

If you honestly think that the flu was non existent last year likely due to mask wearing....then i believe you should remove your mask for a minute to let air get to your brain. Lol

Honestly not trying to be rude, just realistic.

If the folks that whine about wearing a mask in a store or anything actually had a backbone....they would just chose to go somewhere else. Its that simple





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No but some of my friends that are Asian, go back there quite often. If the folks that whine about wearing a mask had a backbone, they'd suck it up and wear one if it's required by that private business. Or leave. :D
 
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