What's everyone's thoughts on the Covid-19 situation?

[dgage]

My problem is that this has been portrayed as the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated. There's a fair percentage of the "unvaccinated" who contracted COVID, recovered, and have natural immunity. Many of those are healthcare workers. Also main stream media is the biggest source of "disinformation".

Reasonable idea. To my knowledge there aren't clear guidelines on what constitutes enough immunity and not sure the current tests can reliably identify the levels of antibodies in the blood. And then there hasn't been enough research to identify what levels of antibodies are needed to provide an adequate level of protection.

Antibody Testing Is Not Currently Recommended to Assess Immunity After COVID-19 Vaccination: FDA Safety Communication | FDA

There's also a level of safety expectation. If I take my kid to a daycare, I expect them to put a reasonable amount of effort into reasonable precautions to protect my kid. If I go to the hospital, I want them to take every precaution they can to make sure I or my family don't get sick or sicker. I mean really, if you go in to the hospital for appendicitis or something different and you get Covid because a nurse chose not to get a vaccine, I'd imagine you'd be upset. Could you still get Covid from a vaccinated person? Sure, but at least they would have taken every perceivable precaution. But I know that I'm the minority on here with this one. Oh well. I should also point out there are legal ramifications if "reasonable" precautions aren't taken. I'm not a lawyer but I've read of plenty of cases that win based on the expectation of "reasonable" precautions being implemented or not.

[opie]

If you got your mask on and vaccine ya should have nothing to worry about my friend...so they say

Id be more worried about a phlebotomist taking a patients blood and said patient jerks and the needle comes out and the phlebotomist gets stuck with a dirty needle.

That sir is a real risk

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[dgage]

What really sucks is all of the diseases scientists and doctors have almost completely eradicated such as measles that will continue to make a comeback. More unvaccinated and we’re no longer willing to enforce vaccines for those going to PUBLIC school. But hey, they died because they had preexisting conditions and we really don’t care about those people. But hey, at least we’re free to not care about anyone but ourselves.

[TTQ B4U]

What really sucks is all of the diseases scientists and doctors have almost completely eradicated such as measles that will continue to make a comeback. More unvaccinated and we’re no longer willing to enforce vaccines for those going to PUBLIC school. But hey, they died because they had preexisting conditions and we really don’t care about those people. But hey, at least we’re free to not care about anyone but ourselves.

Measles, Polio, etc are completely different than a Coronavirus. Fear-mongering off on a shiny object that's not even in the picture is disingenuous. Vaxes for Corona are not going to stop spread as it will continue to mutate and spread even if 100% are vaxed. It's a respiratory virus that is here to stay.

Our health is our own concern and responsibility. This entire thing has been blown out of proportion since day one due to the improper handling of the elderly which is the primary group at risk. Yes, underlying conditions are increasing odds for many. That too is also THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. Put down the bagels and sugar, get healthy and live a good life. People have had nearly 2 years to improve their odds. The rest of us are getting back to normal, living our lives, and no, many of us are NOT going to don silly masks to make others feel good. People have freedom and liberty and YES in America we are free to decide to wear one and yes get the vax if they wish. This hypersensitivity to what others do is coming to an end and needs to. People are indeed here to worry about one's own self and family first. Call it selfish if you wish, but it's our choice. Keep 10ft away if you wish, continue to live in fear, order from Amazon, etc. but half or more of us are not. We're back to NORMAL and enjoying it.

I spend half my year of living in 2 very open and free states besides my home here in Ohio and none of them have issues. It's the locked down liberal states that continue to push mandates and make life unenjoyable that are the ones suffering. Thankfully our homes have been fun and back to near normal for most for quite some time.

[PouncingPanzer]

Wife and I got it a few weeks back. I was down and out with a high fever(highest of 102.1F) for about 4 days. My entire torso felt like I had been beat with bully clubs filled with lead. Like I was bruised head to toe. Had a back spasm in February and still had 800mg ibuprofen horse pills left over, that's probably the only thing that kept her from taking me to the hospital. It responded to the ibuprofen so I didn't worry very much. She got it and just had a fever and a cough but was in less physical pain than myself. Spent 10 days in quarantine playing theHunter: Call Of The Wild and Battlefield 5. Finished another submarine book. Stared at the walls. It was boring. Didn't have the PTO either cause we had our wedding and honeymoon in September so I took it with no pay. Perfect timing too cause we had just closed on the new house....lol.

[Klasse Act]

Measles, Polio, etc are completely different than a Coronavirus. Fear-mongering off on a shiny object that's not even in the picture is disingenuous. Vaxes for Corona are not going to stop spread as it will continue to mutate and spread even if 100% are vaxed. It's a respiratory virus that is here to stay.

Our health is our own concern and responsibility. This entire thing has been blown out of proportion since day one due to the improper handling of the elderly which is the primary group at risk. Yes, underlying conditions are increasing odds for many. That too is also THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. Put down the bagels and sugar, get healthy and live a good life. People have had nearly 2 years to improve their odds. The rest of us are getting back to normal, living our lives, and no, many of us are NOT going to don silly masks to make others feel good. People have freedom and liberty and YES in America we are free to decide to wear one and yes get the vax if they wish. This hypersensitivity to what others do is coming to an end and needs to. People are indeed here to worry about one's own self and family first. Call it selfish if you wish, but it's our choice. Keep 10ft away if you wish, continue to live in fear, order from Amazon, etc. but half or more of us are not. We're back to NORMAL and enjoying it.

I spend half my year of living in 2 very open and free states besides my home here in Ohio and none of them have issues. It's the locked down liberal states that continue to push mandates and make life unenjoyable that are the ones suffering. Thankfully our homes have been fun and back to near normal for most for quite some time.

Here here

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[opie]

Wife and I got it a few weeks back. I was down and out with a high fever(highest of 102.1F) for about 4 days. My entire torso felt like I had been beat with bully clubs filled with lead. Like I was bruised head to toe. Didn't have the PTO either cause we had our wedding and honeymoon in September so I took it with no pay.

Congrats on the tieing the knot, the new house, and natural immunity!

Sounds like you made the right choice to stay out of the hospital

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[CleanIT]

mRNA technology is here to stay and will only become even more influential in medicine. The next generation vaccines will likely work against 90% of all coronaviruses and mutations. My hope is this comes true. Mutations will occur in largely poor areas that don't have access to vaccines. Vaccines are preventing serious illness. For those that don't want to take, don't take it. I was never in favor of mandatory vaccinations, but I am strongly against ignorant anti-science dopes and people that push this garbage for a living. Thoughts and prayers won't cut it. Only science can lead us forward. There just is no other way.

[PA DETAILER]

Got my first shot yesterday. For me, i figured it was the right thing to do.

[dgage]

Measles, Polio, etc are completely different than a Coronavirus. Fear-mongering off on a shiny object that's not even in the picture is disingenuous. Vaxes for Corona are not going to stop spread as it will continue to mutate and spread even if 100% are vaxed. It's a respiratory virus that is here to stay.

Hate to say it but what is happening today in counties around the United States is in the process of rewriting almost 70 years of health policy. This is not about the coronavirus any more. Precedent around the country is being set that we can no longer require vaccines in public schools. Our kids will be less safe than they are today.

And an analog of our choice is with seat belts. Almost all states (except New Hampshire) require and enforce seat belts in automobiles and this has saved lives. A bad accident with and without seat belts could have very different outcomes, much higher costs, and a greater impact on the local hospital. So an individual's choice within a community can definitely affect others around them.