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01-21-2016, 04:21 PM
#171
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
By coincidence, I've just finished coating today a 2007 black PT Cruiser, after properly polished, and I decided to use my BF Crystal Coat.
You all are aware of problems regarding shelf life of this product, and I knew I would run into problems, since It was opened in August 2015, although I keep it in the fridge due to high temps where I work.
Yes, it was a sticking/streaking nightmare. Difficult to level it with mf, leaving streaking, glueing to the mf, and I was inflicting swirls back to the paint, as I tried to remove the excess
I was sweating and cursing silently, thinking that I had to repolish some panels, when I had the idea of treating it like another coating I have, and decided to level it with a DAMP microfiber.
It worked! No more streaking, and excess removal was a breeze!
I would like to ask other forum members in similar situation, with old BF Crystal Coat, to do the same in some test panels to confirm my tweaking technique.
Best regards
RPM
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01-21-2016, 04:35 PM
#172
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
I bought this last year and never opened it yet.....now Im scared to lol
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01-21-2016, 10:17 PM
#173
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
Originally Posted by RPM_BR
By coincidence, I've just finished coating today a 2007 black PT Cruiser, after properly polished, and I decided to use my BF Crystal Coat.
You all are aware of problems regarding shelf life of this product, and I knew I would run into problems, since It was opened in August 2015, although I keep it in the fridge due to high temps where I work.
Yes, it was a sticking/streaking nightmare. Difficult to level it with mf, leaving streaking, glueing to the mf, and I was inflicting swirls back to the paint, as I tried to remove the excess
I was sweating and cursing silently, thinking that I had to repolish some panels, when I had the idea of treating it like another coating I have, and decided to level it with a DAMP microfiber.
It worked! No more streaking, and excess removal was a breeze!
I would like to ask other forum members in similar situation, with old BF Crystal Coat, to do the same in some test panels to confirm my tweaking technique.
Best regards
RPM
I question if the damp microfiber wasn't actually just wiping off most of the coating. I didn't send the blackfire crystal coat back yet, but i have not broken the seal either. I did try some Blackfire Crystal SEAL today, and it seems to work really nicely. I got this coating when it was on sale for 35 bucks, so maybe i'll jsut keep it and try it on something i care less about than my Corvette... then again 35 bucks is 35 bucks.
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01-22-2016, 05:00 AM
#174
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
Originally Posted by joeybsyc
I question if the damp microfiber wasn't actually just wiping off most of the coating. I didn't send the blackfire crystal coat back yet, but i have not broken the seal either. I did try some Blackfire Crystal SEAL today, and it seems to work really nicely. I got this coating when it was on sale for 35 bucks, so maybe i'll jsut keep it and try it on something i care less about than my Corvette... then again 35 bucks is 35 bucks.
If you consider the amount of coating left in the mf towel, it didn't appear to do so.
When you use a dry mf towel, you notice residual coating left in the towel.
The car was made half by dry towel and half with damp towel, both seems the same to me.
Obviously more tests must be made, I will follow the car in question to see how is the behavior in the long term.
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01-22-2016, 07:56 PM
#175
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
Originally Posted by RPM_BR
If you consider the amount of coating left in the mf towel, it didn't appear to do so.
When you use a dry mf towel, you notice residual coating left in the towel.
The car was made half by dry towel and half with damp towel, both seems the same to me.
Obviously more tests must be made, I will follow the car in question to see how is the behavior in the long term.
The question is... how does it LOOK?
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01-23-2016, 06:39 AM
#176
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
Originally Posted by joeybsyc
The question is... how does it LOOK?
It looks really good, BFCC looks really good, adding depth to the color.
As I said, there is no difference between panels leveled with damp or dry mf towel. I'm only afraid about the long run, if it will present a lower life span, which is why I will follow it as time goes by.
Obviously, you should follow the manufacturer's instructions, which is to remove excess with a dry mf.
Use it damp in case you have a old bottle, opened a long time ago, with sticking, glueing issues, as stated in previous posts in this thread.
It is a tweak, not a rule. Or throw it away and buy a new one.
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02-17-2016, 01:19 PM
#177
Newbie Member
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
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04-21-2016, 08:00 PM
#178
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
Do you guys think that Essence could work as a primer for this blackfire coating?
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04-21-2016, 08:14 PM
#179
Super Member
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
Originally Posted by alexalanis
Do you guys think that Essence could work as a primer for this blackfire coating?
It wasn't designed for it, but go ahead and try.
Former professional detailer. Current medical student (class of 2023)
2017 Infiniti Q60 3.0t AWD
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04-22-2016, 12:23 AM
#180
Re: *NEW* BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating!
Originally Posted by alexalanis
Do you guys think that Essence could work as a primer for this blackfire coating?
Yes. I don't think there will be any problem.
The BF and CQ are both Quartz based coatings.
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