Blackfire Crystal Seal - The 11 Minute Paint Sealant

[Timbrr]

Dear Mark & Ryan

Thanks for responding.

My order is at US$125.93, so I think I'll just wait on the Crystal Seal. I am going to try the Wet Diamond Polymer Spray, though, unless you guys advise against it.

My order arrived today and I used the Polymer Spray on one panel. My wife saw it and guess who wants her whole car done tomorrow? Try it, you will be pleased.

[Jaddie]

Dear Timbrr

My order arrived today and I used the Polymer Spray on one panel. My wife saw it and guess who wants her whole car done tomorrow? Try it, you will be pleased.

I ordered some today and probably will receive it on Friday. I hope it works as well for me as it is for you.

[SC sid]

instead of polishing my lights could i just use this ?

[Marc08EX]

I'm also curious as to how this product compares to opti-seal.

[umi000]

Boy it is expensive though, only WOWA that is more expensive is the Zaino. Is this really slicker than Opti-Seal or UPGP?

Doesn't seem like that big a price difference? 8 oz size is just $5 more expensive than OS, and the 4 oz size is actually $2 cheaper than the 4 oz UPGP...

[Flannigan]

I Wonder how it's durability stacks up to Opti Seal.

Obviously there hasn't been enough time for me to personally test the durability, but from what I've been told this product has more durability than OptiSeal, and a little less than UPGP. I'm not sure if any durability testing has been done on layers though, so you might be able to creep up on UPGP if you apply mutiple layers.

instead of polishing my lights could i just use this ?

This product is just an LSP, it doesn't have any cleaners or cutting ability to it. If you have dull headlights you would still need to polish them, but you could use this to protect them and keep them crystal clear.

I'm also curious as to how this product compares to opti-seal.

See above

[Setec Astronomy]

Doesn't seem like that big a price difference? 8 oz size is just $5 more expensive than OS, and the 4 oz size is actually $2 cheaper than the 4 oz UPGP...

I have a spreadsheet that didn't have the 4oz size of UGPG, but I added it:

Zaino, 6oz $4.99/oz
UPGP, 4oz $4.99/oz
BFCS, 4oz $4.49/oz
UPGP, 12 oz $3.33/oz
OS, 8oz $3.12/oz

Heh...never can get columns to work right in forums.

[umi000]

I have a spreadsheet that didn't have the 4oz size of UGPG, but I added it:

Zaino, 6oz $4.99/oz
UPGP, 4oz $4.99/oz
BFCS, 4oz $4.49/oz
UPGP, 12 oz $3.33/oz
OS, 8oz $3.12/oz

Heh...never can get columns to work right in forums.

The BFCS also has an 8 oz size at 29.99, so $3.75/oz - somewhat more expensive than UPGP, but not at the level of ZCS

On a tangent, I'd always wondered, which Duragloss product corresponds to ZCS?

Edit: Hmmm, a Google search reveals something called EnviroShield... wonder why they never released that in the US - seems to be out in our region, wonder if I can get my hands on a bottle...

[Setec Astronomy]

The BFCS also has an 8 oz size at 29.99, so $3.75/oz - somewhat more expensive than UPGP, but not at the level of ZCS

On a tangent, I'd always wondered, which Duragloss product corresponds to ZCS?

Edit: Hmmm, a Google search reveals something called EnviroShield... wonder why they never released that in the US - seems to be out in our region, wonder if I can get my hands on a bottle...

Hey, thanks for pointing out the larger size of BFCS, I didn't see it and I'll add that to my spreadsheet. I was going to touch on your tangent, but decided this wasn't the appropriate thread for that.

[Pats300zx]

Great stuff Nick. I can't wait for warmer weather to give this a try.