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    This is getting good

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    funny all the ads were changed again this morning. No more Pinnacle Souveran in ad, not by pic (originally next to Klasse AIO) nor in the text itself. Something very interesting is afoot ....

    last night /// last week (gone as of 6am this morning)
    1. Pics of Klasse AIO / Souveran side by side
    2. Pic of Souveran alone (below Viper) above the dual shot of both products

    Text on Souveran (removal mid morning - reposted below)
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    This is not a replacement for Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax nor is it "better" than Souveran. The advantage of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond, Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax is that it can be used as a topping over any polymer sealant to add depth and liquidity without fear of hazing, streaking or cloudy patches
    (original source CMA Newsletter Mailed yesterday evening)
    Last edited by ScottB; 01-06-2007 at 07:03 PM.


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    Very very interesting.....................

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    still no update from Jason or Max ... cannot see why the ads are consistently changing ??

    Did the two forum members who supposedly have kits in hand try it, and pics next to Souveran ?? Ads still say its not available which is wierd also ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek
    still no update from Jason or Max ... cannot see why the ads are consistently changing ??

    Did the two forum members who supposedly have kits in hand try it, and pics next to Souveran ?? Ads still say its not available which is wierd also ??
    The weather is just clearing off so I may be able to do a side by side test on the MINI hood. I wasn't supposed to rain today!

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    OK. I dusted off the new MINI's hood and applied both waxes. I have been using FMJ/HGAS lately on the metallic black. The BF marketing boasts that the polymers in wet diamond wax would adhere to a polymer sealant like fmj.
    I posted quite a few in my Gallery if you want to compare for yourself.

    I can't see any difference. The wet diamond applied a little thinner and was removed with a little less effort but I am just splitting hairs here. The souveran has the upper hand in the fragrance department.

    I will try to avoid QDs on the hood for a while to see how they compare as the weeks go by. This car is getting at least 3 hand washes a month with PB SS&S.

    The gallery pics show which side has which wax.


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    Looks very nice! I cannot wait to see pics after washes..

    What sealant was used under Souveran?





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    FMJ with HGAS after every wash on the whole car.

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    can we get a pick of them both side by side, with the lids open ?? Whats the difference in smell ?? This morning the advertisement stayed the same, which is funny, considering it changed so much over the weekend.


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    For now our official comment is "no comment".

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