Used the New Ultima as a No Rinse,and...

**Old Tiger** · 10-11-2010, 08:36 PM

It is as good as ONR or DP RW IMO! It did a great job, but as Corey's review of DP RW & ONR concluded the latest versions of DP and ONR are about equal performance wise. Ultima performs on par with the competition. An ounce makes 3 gallons but costs about 2X more than the others if you buy the gallon of ONR or DP. I like the scent more than the mulberry ONR and a little more than DP. A beta tester said it is grapefruit. It was a little stubborn on glass but I really dont do a very good job on glass with a rinseless and much prefer to use Clearcote Quick Shine on glass and just get the heavy stuff with rinseless. Im sure CEE Dog will update his most excellent review once he gets his Ultima. It is the only product that is also a SUPERB Waterless Wash too!

**CEE DOG** · 10-11-2010, 09:19 PM

Jim, Thanks for getting the scoop to us straight away! Like I mentioned, I'm really excited about it as a waterless wash. Great to hear the early review on it. Thank you!

btw: ONR... Mulberry? Is that what that scent is? I knew it was some kind of berries! I like that scent but I haven't found many that agree with me

**Rsurfer** · 10-11-2010, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by CEE DOG

Jim, Thanks for getting the scoop to us straight away! Like I mentioned, I'm really excited about it as a waterless wash. Great to hear the early review on it. Thank you!

btw: ONR... Mulberry? Is that what that scent is? I knew it was some kind of berries! I like that scent but I haven't found many that agree with me

It's better than the old ONR chemical smell. Jim where do I find Mulberry to compare? LOL

**Rsurfer** · 10-11-2010, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Old Tiger

It is as good as ONR or DP RW IMO! It did a great job, but as Corey's review of DP RW & ONR concluded the latest versions of DP and ONR are about equal performance wise. Ultima performs on par with the competition. An ounce makes 3 gallons but costs about 2X more than the others if you buy the gallon of ONR or DP. I like the scent more than the mulberry ONR and a little more than DP. A beta tester said it is grapefruit. It was a little stubborn on glass but I really dont do a very good job on glass with a rinseless and much prefer to use Clearcote Quick Shine on glass and just get the heavy stuff with rinseless. Im sure CEE Dog will update his most excellent review once he gets his Ultima. It is the only product that is also a SUPERB Waterless Wash too!

How does it compare to OOC? Is the new Ultima a rinsless or waterless or both?

**Old Tiger** · 10-11-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Rsurfer

How does it compare to OOC? Is the new Ultima a rinsless or waterless or both?

Ron, IME it works very well as a Waterless first and a rinseless second. IMO You will probably like some little something about one over the other, May be smell or color , but IME you are not going to notice a big difference in performance cleaning or the final finish. They both leeave a high gloss compared to DP which doesnt gloss or protect like these new products. IMO DP WW cant compete with the Optimum or Ultima. Reasons are cost per oz Protection and gloss. Ive always had to QD or Spray Wax over DP WW. With OOC or Ultima you have a QD on steroids that does all that in one step! OOC wont replace ONR, but the Ultima will do both very well. Send me a pm with your address and I will send you enough to make a gallon!

**Old Tiger** · 10-11-2010, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by CEE DOG

Jim, Thanks for getting the scoop to us straight away! Like I mentioned, I'm really excited about it as a waterless wash. Great to hear the early review on it. Thank you!

btw: ONR... Mulberry? Is that what that scent is? I knew it was some kind of berries! I like that scent but I haven't found many that agree with me

I read about the mulberry scent. I wouldnt know a mulberry from a dingleberry! It has grown on me! I like Ultima scent better IMO only!

**Kurt_s** · 10-11-2010, 11:35 PM

Jim,

Where did you get the Ultima.

I can't keep up with your new finds.

**Rsurfer** · 10-12-2010, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Old Tiger

Ron, IME it works very well as a Waterless first and a rinseless second. IMO You will probably like some little something about one over the other, May be smell or color , but IME you are not going to notice a big difference in performance cleaning or the final finish. They both leeave a high gloss compared to DP which doesnt gloss or protect like these new products. IMO DP WW cant compete with the Optimum or Ultima. Reasons are cost per oz Protection and gloss. Ive always had to QD or Spray Wax over DP WW. With OOC or Ultima you have a QD on steroids that does all that in one step! OOC wont replace ONR, but the Ultima will do both very well. Send me a pm with your address and I will send you enough to make a gallon!

PM sent. Now I need to find a Mulberry bush.

**Old Tiger** · 10-12-2010, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Kurt_s

Jim,

Where did you get the Ultima.

I can't keep up with your new finds.

You have a PM buddy!

**CEE DOG** · 10-12-2010, 05:55 PM

I just got my UWW! I'm excited!! "It's gonna move ya."

I love my Ultima!

My wife says the UWW smells like juicy fruit

Hey Jim, the towel looks real nice!