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    Re: Warning:Miracle Training Centre SCAM

    In before the lock? And/or ban?
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    Re: Warning:Miracle Training Centre SCAM

    Quote Originally Posted by A4 1.8tqm View Post
    Even if the policy is non-refundable deposits, I still find it unethical to keep the money when no service was provided. Unfortunately, Detailing inc., it's your fault. He did not "steal" from you.
    to a degree, but if you don't make an example out of someone, then your entire schedule will run amuck. I bet anyone else who views this thread and is considering the course will make damn sure their schedule is cleared
    “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Lil Detlr View Post
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    Re: Warning:Miracle Training Centre SCAM

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    What the hell are you trying to say Exotic?

    Have you been drinking today?

    Buchanan with OJ and a cuban cigar

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    Re: Warning:Miracle Training Centre SCAM

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
    if you don't make an example out of someone, then your entire schedule will run a muck.
    All too true, I'm sure Paul is pretty busy and needs to keep a tight schedule...

    But I still think it's wrong to just keep all the money without providing anything in return, regardless of being written in a contract. A $200 non-refundable deposit I can see, but $2200? I guess it weeds out those who aren't serious and any potential no-shows.

    Question for OP, was $2200 the entire cost of the training? Was a full-cost deposit required? Or did you prepay in full voluntarily?

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    Re: Warning:Miracle Training Centre SCAM

    I have some land on the moon for sale if anybody is interested.

    Only 500$ per acre.

    Upon arriving you can carve Paul Daltons name in the moon rock for an additional 3300$

    Not to make light of your loss but I can't help but feel a sense of awe that someone would pay that much for a detailing lesson.

    I am sorry for your loss...

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    Barry Theal hit the nail on the head. What could Paul teach you that Renny has/can not? There is no magical detailing potion in England. I have been there and it's cold, rainy, the food sucks but the earth still rotates the same as it does in the U.S. Paul is an excellent marketer and it has served him well. You can't blame the guy for your airlines screwup. Paul Dalton is running a business...successful I might add.

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    Re: Warning:Miracle Training Centre SCAM

    Quote Originally Posted by CEE DOG View Post
    I have some land on the moon for sale if anybody is interested.

    Only 500$ per acre.

    Upon arriving you can carve Paul Daltons name in the moon rock for an additional 3300$

    Not to make light of your loss but I can't help but feel a sense of awe that someone would pay that much for a detailing lesson.

    I am sorry for your loss...

    I'll take 2 acres!!

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    Re: Warning:Miracle Training Centre SCAM

    Quote Originally Posted by ExoticAutoDetai View Post

    Buchanan with OJ and a cuban cigar
    I can tell you've been drinking. You forgot to ad your signature

    Quote Originally Posted by A4 1.8tqm View Post
    All too true, I'm sure Paul is pretty busy and needs to keep a tight schedule...

    But I still think it's wrong to just keep all the money without providing anything in return, regardless of being written in a contract. A $200 non-refundable deposit I can see, but $2200? I guess it weeds out those who aren't serious and any potential no-shows.

    Question for OP, was $2200 the entire cost of the training? Was a full-cost deposit required? Or did you prepay in full voluntarily?
    Good question. I've always been taught to never pay more then 50% on anything untill services are rendered

    I also would not keep someones entire deposit..... Well, maybe I would if they created a thread on a forum bashing my good name
    “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

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    Re: Warning:Miracle Training Centre SCAM

    I wonder if this response was what "Detailinginc" expected. I bet he thought everyone would say "Screw Paul Dalton! I'm never going to him and I've changed my mind about him because of what Detailinginc posted"......

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