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Re: Got asked for invoice to show how I came up with my price
Originally Posted by Auto Envy
...doin interiors for 23 semi's...
...gave a price I felt comfortable with...
Originally Posted by Auto Envy
I just thought of a # that was reasonable for them but still good enough for me. I charged $125 for just interior.
Originally Posted by Auto Envy
3 hrs for the first one and 6 on the second one. Didn't rush on either truck though.
Did you do both interiors in the same workday?
If so...This is how I figure your gross hourly-rate of being paid:
First one:
$125.00 per/interior divided by 3hrs.= $41.67 hourly rate
Second one:
$125.00 per/interior divided by 6hrs.=$29.83 hourly rate
2 interiors X $125.00=$250.00 divided by 9hrs.=gross $27.78 per/hr
-Are you comfortable with this: Gross/Before take home pay?
Now if you figure in your deductions...
-(I'll add a few other items to what's listed below...
Business Insurance; Taxes; Uniforms' costs; Meals):
Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
material costs, travel charges, fuel surcharge, etc.
Originally Posted by JSFM35x
Fuel, travel, set up, chemicals and machiery included
If you are using a genrator and you water
Being generous...
-I'll estimate around 50% of your hourly wages earned for deductions=
$13.89 per/hr net income X 2080hrs. per/year= (~) $29,000 yr.
NOTE: That's around twice the minimum hourly-rate in most states.
-Would you still be comfortable with this amount earned per/yr.?
How about monies toward vacations/medical expenses/retirement...i.e.
How are these 'accounts' to be funded?
Another thing I noticed:
Originally Posted by Auto Envy
I got am account for my first fleet service
Questions:
-Do have other Customers that you are "fitting-in"/scheduling along with this fleet account?
-If true...Where are you finding the...time, physicality...to do so?
-If your fortunate to have one...How about Family-Time?
It's a lot of effort to do these interiors (such as):
Originally Posted by JSFM35x
Clean and extract carpets, vacum head liner, clean and condition leather seats, clean and seal glass, etc
But to increase your bottom-line (net-pay/hr.)...
You'll have to complete more interiors per/daily-hrs. instead of:
Originally Posted by Auto Envy
Didn't rush on either truck though.
Even then, there is the chance for this event happening (RE: Perhaps folks willing to work for Minimum Wage):
Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
they will say you are chaging too much per hour or taking too long to do it.
-Just a few things that I thought about while reading your thread.
-Anyway...Good Luck in this Venture.
Bob
"Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
~Joaquin de Setanti
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Re: Got asked for invoice to show how I came up with my price
Tell them it's the point on the supply and demand graph where the two curves intersect. It's the going market rate. If they don't like it, punch them in the face.
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Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek
That's the most important thing because the last thing you want to do is clean their dirty Semi Trucks and be unhappy at the end of the day.
Tell them what you posted here, that is you charge $125.00 for interior only on something of this type and size.
Detailing clean interiors isn't any fun. Detailing ANY interior that NEEDS detailing is less fun.
If you don't need the work then stick to your quote and if they don't like it then go after other work that you like and get the price you want.
A lot of detailers I've met in my life don't like doing interiors so they quote high prices in an effort to scare the customer away so they don't have to do it. Often enough the people will say "yes" and then the detailer gets the price he's comfortable with even though they tried to get out of it.
Weird how that works...
When my dad and I did upholstery work we would do this. It's funny how you will get the job even with the high price sometimes. A few times we said we need to ask for even more next time to try to avoid doing it.
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Originally Posted by WickedLou9
Tell them it's the point on the supply and demand graph where the two curves intersect. It's the going market rate. If they don't like it, punch them in the face.
Lol
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Re: Got asked for invoice to show how I came up with my price
My response would be: That information is proprietary and is developed based on a myriad of things like, age and condition of a particular vehicle(s), the amount of work anticipated, the number of and type of services required and the expected cost of time and materials needed to complete the project. The price I quote is non-negotiable.
I've been detailing for 50+ years and over that time have developed a very good feel for what a detail will take on any specific vehicle. I don't itemize. In many ways, detailing is like an art form. You wouldn't ask Picasso for an itemization.
Didn't I just read a thread about some guy asking a lot of pricing questions of a detailer only to find that person set up another detailing shop and used his prices? Why would someone want a detailed breakdown of a detail? My customers don't. I've never been asked for an itemized breakdown.
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Re: Got asked for invoice to show how I came up with my price
Originally Posted by jfelbab
My response would be: That information is proprietary and is developed based on a myriad of things like, age and condition of a particular vehicle(s), the amount of work anticipated, the number of and type of services required and the expected cost of time and materials needed to complete the project. The price I quote is non-negotiable.
I've been detailing for 50+ years and over that time have developed a very good feel for what a detail will take on any specific vehicle. I don't itemize. In many ways, detailing is like an art form. You wouldn't ask Picasso for an itemization.
Didn't I just read a thread about some guy asking a lot of pricing questions of a detailer only to find that person set up another detailing shop and used his prices? Why would someone want a detailed breakdown of a detail? My customers don't. I've never been asked for an itemized breakdown.
Very well said (the part in bold)
I didn't see the other thread you refer to. Gotta link?
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Re: Got asked for invoice to show how I came up with my price
It's very easy....
Interior job per Truck: $1.00
Knowing how to do it: Priceless.... - or - $124
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Re: Got asked for invoice to show how I came up with my price
Really you don't need to give them anything other than "it's my rate for this type of work". Sure you could back into an itemized form but the end result is the same. You provide a service and your time is worth X dollars as determined by the general market. I mean if you walk into a Ford dealer and asked them or an itemized list of why the Focus costs 25k, they will laugh at you. that is what the market price is based on supply and demand. Most of what you charge for is time, effort, and expertise. The materials are not all that expensive and those costs are factored into what you charge already.
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Re: Got asked for invoice to show how I came up with my price
Originally Posted by TroyScherer
It's very easy....
Interior job per Truck: $1.00
Knowing how to do it: Priceless.... - or - $124
I mean this is pretty close to the truth. What do you use cleaning an iterior? a vaccuum, an extractor, some water and MF towels. maybe a couple cleaning products? The extractor and other equipment are sunk costs. You buy it once and use it as long as you can. You can't charge for use of the equipment. How much do you use in terms of materials? 2 dollars? The form would look like
Water : $0.50
Soap: $1.00
Labor: $123.50
Or you could just say that materials are provided for free and you charge 50/hr for labor.
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I just gave them an invoice that simply stated truck interior $125 and gave a list of what I do for interiors with nothing specific to each truck and they were fine with it. But after reading some of the above comments I do not believe I'm charging enough. There is no contract and I never gave a different price for day cabs and there is more day cabs then sleepers so I will hold true to my price.
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