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    Re: Autowerx CeriGlass Guide

    Great review.

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    Re: Autowerx CeriGlass Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by lexusgs View Post
    Do you have a link to these CarPro glass pads, I did a quick search on them and could not find them, only ceriglass. Are they thicker, more flexible, more suitable for a DA. Do you have a DA or access to one to see if the CarPro glass pads will work with a DA? I was just going to say forget trying to get the scratches out of my windshield after my experience and just Rain X them but if you get good results from the CarPro pads and a DA I will give them a shot.

    With the popularity of DA buffers and with so many windshields scratched up whoever makes a good glass polish/pad system for DA's that really works is going to get a lot of business. Same with whoever makes a permanent coating for headlights that will last several years before yellowing again.
    I will get a link to you. The CarPro glass pads look very promising. They are thicker than the LC cutting pads and they are also more flexible. They seem to be very well made. I do not have a backing plate small enough to fit them onto my PC... I may need to order some larger pads and do another test. There is another thread where someone achieved excellent results with a GG DA and the CarPro pads. I will update this thread as soon as I am able to try them out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johny B View Post
    Great review.
    Thank you! I hope you and others find it helpful. Glass is the most annoying thing when it isn't perfect... especially if the windshield is jacked up because you have a constant reminder every single time you drive anywhere.
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    Re: Autowerx CeriGlass Guide

    Round 2: Destroyed Glass vs CeriGlass via DA.



    A recent thread showing excellent results removing scratches from glass using CeriGlass and a Griot's DA polisher has me convinced that with proper technique it should be possible to fully correct this window without a rotary.

    Thread will be updated within the next few weeks with the results...
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    Re: Autowerx CeriGlass Guide



    Since I originally created this guide I have had a lot more experience with CeriGlass. It is now a permanent component of my detailing arsenal and is, what I consider, an essential compound for any detailer.

    I have also come to HATE the LC glass cutting pads that I show in my original post. The more times I use them the more and more I dislike them. I no longer recommend using them for correcting glass. Instead I recommend CarPro's glass polishing pads. They are much thicker than the LC glass cutting pads and do an awesome job with ZERO micromarring like the LC pads... even when using a DA!

    I have also revised my technique a little to ensure that there is almost ZERO sling when working with CeriGlass. This polish is meant to be worked very wet and it will dry rather quickly (similar to M105 buffing cycle). A spritz of water will instantly reactivate the polish and allow for an almost infinitely long buffing cycle. The problem, usually, is that when the water is added to the mixture it becomes very runny and can sling EVERYWHERE. I have found a great solution to this that I will show below. On to the show!

    This window was replaced with a used piece from a scrap yard after our car was broken into. As you can see... it doesn't necessarily have that "like new" look and feel.


    Ridiculous RIDS and swirls all over. it's difficult to capture in a photo just what horrible condition this glass is in.


    This time around I wanted to try correcting these incredibly deep scratches with my DA instead of the rotary. With the CarPro glass pads it works perfectly!!! It's a little bit slower process than with the rotary but it absolutely gives the same results.


    The key to perfect results with ZERO sling is to control the water input onto the surface as you polish. Here I am spritzing the surface with a finely atomized mist of water/ONR solution right in front of where the pad is traveling. This gives the perfect amount of water to reactivate the CeriGlass so it can perform work WITHOUT the sling created by a typical large amount of water from a spray bottle.



    It takes a little getting used to this technique because you have to hold the polisher steady with one hand while still applying moderate downward force. Using a DA it isn't so hard because you can control the machine easily with one hand... I use the DA on speed 6 the entire time.

    When using a rotary it's a little more complicated. For rotary use I trigger lock @ 1000rpm and hold the bottle with the same hand that is over the "front" of the polisher (the pad side). I aim the bottle so when pumped it goes right next to the pad. The key really is just using a small enough bottle that you can hold while still maintaining control of the machine. The atomizer spray pattern is also a must so you can control the amount of liquid applied to the glass...

    I divided the window into two sections. I was going to do a 50/50 but it was getting late and I just wanted to finish.


    This is what the polish should look like over the glass as it is being worked. If there are ever any clear spots it means it is drying up and you need to use more water. If water isn't making a difference you need to clean the window and add more CeriGlass.


    Final results after about 30-45 mins of polishing with a DA. I will note I cheated and used the rotary with a smaller pad on a few sections around the edges. Even so, the DA was more than capable of removing these serious defects.


    Ignore the streaks and lint... This was after just a quick wipe with Eraser to clean off the spent polish.



    Conclusion: You can remove almost any type of scratch in your glass with CeriGlass with proper technique and enough well spent time polishing. My best advice is DON'T GIVE UP! You will find yourself spending 15 minutes polishing with what looks like nothing happening; then, all of a sudden on that last section pass all the scratches will disappear. It really is magical when it happens.

    Word of advice: It is CRITICAL to use overlapping passes and alternate the direction of the polisher. When you are correcting deep scratches you are removing glass and it can cause a "warped effect" when looking through the glass. This problem is solved by overlapping each pass and alternating the direction of each pass while you work.

    Thanks for looking! Feel free to leave questions or comments below.
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    Re: Autowerx CeriGlass Guide

    Results look good and promising. You definitely had better luck then I did with the Lake Country pad with my PC. Thanks for sharing. I will give that glass pad a try with my DA after reading about your positive experience and seeing your results.

    Did you have to clean/wash the pad every so often, did the pad end up getting too soft or were you able to use it for the whole window without washing the polish out and drying it out? Did the windshield seem to heat up much while using it? Were the results enough to go straight to adding a glass protectant like rain x or was there a little micro marring/fog that should be finished down with a less aggressive pad/polish.

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    Re: Autowerx CeriGlass Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by lexusgs View Post
    Results look good and promising. You definitely had better luck then I did with the Lake Country pad with my PC. Thanks for sharing. I will give that glass pad a try with my DA after reading about your positive experience and seeing your results.
    You're welcome! If you have previously used the LC glass pads and you switch to the CarPro pads you will be amazed at the difference!

    Did you have to clean/wash the pad every so often, did the pad end up getting too soft or were you able to use it for the whole window without washing the polish out and drying it out? Did the windshield seem to heat up much while using it? Were the results enough to go straight to adding a glass protectant like rain x or was there a little micro marring/fog that should be finished down with a less aggressive pad/polish.
    I used only 2 pads on the whole window. One 5" on the DA and one 3" on the rotary in a few small spots around the edge. I did not have to clean the pads at all. If you were correcting deep scratches like this on every single window than you would probably want one pad for each window and maybe 2 for the windshield. Otherwise just cleaning them and spinning them dry would be fine too. They get wet anyway while you are polishing and spritzing water onto the glass.

    The glass does heat up some while polishing but never to the point that it is too hot to touch. That is one benefit of using a DA is the heat generated seemed to be kept to a minimum and the polish did not dry as fast as it usually does when I use a rotary.

    The results were LSP ready after the CeriGlass and CarPro glass pads. I didn't notice any micro-marring at all the entire time. I even worked the polish till it was dry and clear in one spot to see if it would mar and it didn't. These pads really make all the difference in the world.
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    Re: Autowerx CeriGlass Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas@Autowerx View Post
    I think the disappointment most people experience the first time they attempt intensive glass correction is due to those LC glass cutting pads. They are SO unforgiving. They are decent with a rotary but they are absolutely HORRIBLE when paired up with a DA polisher. I have never been able to use them without seeing DA haze.

    I have recently ordered some CarPro glass pads but have not been able to use them yet. There was another glass polishing thread recently where someone was able to get very good results with the CarPro glass pads, CeriGlass and a DA polisher. I would recommend giving those a go because I am 100% positive it is not the polish that has let you down.

    I will be doing another test very soon with the CarPro glass pads, CeriGlass, and rotary. My hope is that I can achieve the same results as in this tutorial but only in one step.

    Great article, we need more on glass! Well written & good pictures. Nick you are 100% right. LC pads + PC = Jacked up Glass. I posted on the CarPro pads and Griots DA. I was able to get stunning results with this combo and CeriGlass in ONE step (one very LONG and MESSY step) using a Griots. Not only did it finish crystal clear, removal all scratches, but, it removed all the DA Haze from my PC and LC pads. I was as surprised as anyone else. I was just looking for improvement.

    I agree, it does take a ton of downward pressure, but keeping the polish wet (and a Griots DA) will keep the pad spinning no problem. Nice Work! Once you try the CarPro pads with CerriGlass, you'll never touch the LC pads again.

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    Re: Autowerx CeriGlass Guide

    Makes me want a rotary! Nice write up
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    Re: Autowerx CeriGlass Guide

    I wonder why AG doesn't sell the CarPro glass pads?

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    Hey Nicholas...

    Just to note, if you look at the top of your first post to this thread I gave it a blue clickable link to itself you you, or anyone can highlight, copy and paste the blue clickable link to anywhere else in the forum world to share you very well-written article.

    I always do this for my articles to make it easy for anyone to share the link to an article. Even have an article on this topic...

    How to share an article using a blue clickable link



    I did this because I just shared your articles on one of my how-to articles and now I can share the link to your article faster and easier into the future...


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