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Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
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Pictures & comments from Competition Ready 3-Day Detailing Classes with Mike Phillips
The below car was detailed by the May 2017 Competition Ready Detailing Class. This Acura TSX is 1 of 3 cars this classed detailed as a part of learning how to do high quality production detailing. The results you see were created in ONE-STEP using a one-step cleaner/wax.
These are true results, the swirls and scratches are not merely filled in.
Question: How did the car get so bad?
Answer: The couple that owns this car told me they paid $135.00 to a local detailer to get their car detailed. To me, it looks like the so called detailer used a garden rake to wash the car.
The first time I saw this car was at our local "Lew's Crew Tuesday Night Cruise-in" car show. After the show, the couple came to the Autogeek booth and showed me the car.
2011 Buick Regal
They said they were told "Mike Phillips details cars". I told them "yes" it's true I detail cars but mostly special interest vehicles, like on display at Lew's Crew Cruise-in. I told them I could detail their car and gave them my Package 1 price. They said okay.
Later in the month, I had a car cancel for the May Competition Ready class so I called them and asked them if they would be willing to let me use their car in the class. They would get the detail for free but it would be students training on their car in a classroom setting. They agreed.
At all my classes, the classes we hold here at Autogeek and the Autogeek Roadshow Classes, I teach both
Show Car Detailing
Production Detailing
It's important to know both styles of car detailing and it's also important to know when to do which type for which customer and the customer's car.
This Buick is a daily driver. I asked the owners how they washed the car. (I always ask people this and teach my students to do the same for very important reasons), they said they took the car to a car wash. I told them after we detail the car their best option for maintaining the car into the future would be to either,
A: Wash the car themselves - I told them I would show them good products for this available at Autogeek.com
B: Take the car to a touchless car wash
They opted to get the products and do it themselves.
The BIG PICTURE is that not only should you NOT do multiple steps to every car you detail but if you use a high quality one-step cleaner/wax with ANY quality orbital polisher and quality foam buffing pads you can actually turn out incredible results and doing so with only one-step. (besides the washing, drying and claying steps).
Most people, that is most of your customers only want 4 things when they get their car detailed,
1: Shiny paint (this is different than 100% swirls and scratches removed)
2: Black tires
3: Clear glass
4: Clean looking and smelling interior
Most people don't know the difference between a squirrel or a swirl
The difference between a swirl and squirrel
Here's the before and after pictures....
Next 2-Day Roadshow Class is in August in Wisconsin
Autogeek's 2 Day Roadshow Detailing Class at Lake Country Pads in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin - August 12th & 13th
Next 3-Day Competition Ready Detailing Class here at Autogeek at the end of September
Next Competition Ready Class is September 29th, 30th and October 1st - Click here for more information
Learn the art of balance when it comes to matching your services to your customer and their car.
Product used...
Get you some here
3D HD Speed - 32 ounce bottle
3D HD Speed - 16 ounce bottle
I'd recommend going ahead and purchasing the 32 once bottle because
A: It's that good.
B: If you own and drive a car and take care of it yourself you'll end up needing and wanting the 32 ounce bottle.
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Re: Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
Mike,
have you ever considered offering just your presentations? until a roadshow comes to SoCal or I ever make my way to FL I would still love to and would pay to just see a video presentation of the speaking parts of the classes you give.
also on another note any chance you can find a second to send me the print out for your detailing presentation on your I thin kit was "go through the back door" approach.
lastly great thread as always
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Re: Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
Originally Posted by Cruzscarwash
Mike,
have you ever considered offering just your presentations? until a roadshow comes to SoCal or I ever make my way to FL I would still love to and would pay to just see a video presentation of the speaking parts of the classes you give.
Thank you for your vote of confidence. We actually tried something like this with a ROKU channel, that is online detailing classes but nothing can take the place of the real deal.
No worries my friend, I'll be in California in the future. Lately I just have been to busy testing out new products, writing reviews and also detailing cars and making videos to work on contacting our already established contacts in California.
I'm confident it will happen.
Originally Posted by Cruzscarwash
also on another note any chance you can find a second to send me the print out for your detailing presentation on your I thin kit was "go through the back door" approach.
That project is about half done. So many new products being introduced and it's very time consuming to,
- Use the products
- Take the pictures
- Write something
Originally Posted by Cruzscarwash
lastly great thread as always
Thank you and have to say, not only was each person present in this class blown away by what a simple one-step cleaner/wax did but I was impressed too.
I have another mind-blowing before and after that you'll see in the near future. I posted videos last Friday to my FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/Mike.Phillips.Autogeek/
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Re: Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
I'm blown away from the before/after pics and knowing it was a 1-step. AMAZING results.
That hood pic made me cringe, it was so bad.
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Re: Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
To quote Mike's Post
Originally Posted by Mike Phillips
"Learn the art of balance when it comes to matching your services to your customer and their car."
Wiser words were never spoken when it comes to the detailing profession
Product used...
HD Speed, all killer, no fillers, amazing turn around Mike.
2013 Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track Edition
2015 Hyundai Sonata Limited, 2016 Pearl White Nissan Altima SR
2019 Nissan Rogue SL
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Re: Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
Originally Posted by JustJesus
I'm blown away from the before/after pics and knowing it was a 1-step. AMAZING results.
So was I. So was the class. Keep in mind, some of the students that worked on this car and ALL 16 cars in this 3-day class - this was their first time ever machine polishing.
May and even most thought the after results looked as good as the results from doing three steps, (compound, polish and seal), for the 10 SIV or Special Interest Vehicles we buffed out during the class session on Show Car Detailing, which we cover before we cover Production Detailing. And there's a reason why I cover show car detailing before production detailing and I'm pretty sure I'm the only guy that calls himself an "instructor" does this in our industry. At least I don't know of anyone that does this but then I only know of a few guys that are "real" instructors. Seems like every day I see someone pop-up calming to be an instructor and teaching classes.
Originally Posted by JustJesus
That hood pic made me cringe, it was so bad.
Me too.
In fact, I wasn't sure it could be fixed as in some lighting it looked to have beginning clearcoat failure. This was truly an amazing restoration and the owners knew it and were blown away too.
Originally Posted by custmsprty
HD Speed, all killer, no filler,
Now that's a slogan.
If I use the above in the future I'll give you due credit. I'm going to share this on my Facebook Page and I'll tag Tunch and 3D. They should snag that slogan and also say thanks...
Only type it like this,
HD Speed - All Killer! No Filler!
Originally Posted by custmsprty
amazing turn around Mike.
I did the Test Spot to demonstrate the correct technique when using cleaner/waxes and then turned the students loose...
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Re: Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
What would have been total cost for product detail and cost for show car detail (you can includes steps and products I understand every market is different but a general view may be helpful.
(Answer: The couple that owns this car told me they paid $135.00 to a local detailer to get their car detailed. To me, it looks like the so called detailer used a garden rake to wash the car.)
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Re: Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
Originally Posted by 215Detailing
What would have been total cost for production detail and cost for show car detail
(you can includes steps and products I understand every market is different but a general view may be helpful)
Good question.
To figure out total costs you have to capture data at the time of the detail. This car was detailed a month ago and because it was at my class I did not capture data. I have before and shared it on this forum but not this time.
Basically,
Weigh your bottles before and after the detail and then do the math to figure out how much product you used and the cost per ounce.
Add wear-n-tear to your foam pads. Besides that each person can decide if they also want to factor in wear-n-tear n towels and tools. Most don't.
Good question Antti
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Re: Making money doing production detailing by Mike Phillips
Mike, this was great, short demonstration on cleaner wax application, that still stands today.
I actually bought a bunch of these black pads, but in the flat version - because of this video. Thanks!
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