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How to remove orange peel by wet sanding - Advanced Detailing Class
How to remove orange peel by wet sanding - Advanced Detailing Class
At a recent detailing class here at Autogeek in Stuart, Florida, everyone that attended had the opportunity to learn how to remove orange peel by wet sanding the paint by machine. This included the entire process from start to finish working on a custom, 1963 Chevrolet Impala.
Here are the steps taught in this class...
Waterless & Rinseless Wash to clean exterior before sanding
You must remove any loose dirt as a normal "best practice" before doing any other procedure, especially wet sanding. When it comes to classic cars, as a practice it's not a good idea to use a normal wash with lots of water running into areas you cannot dry as this can cause a potential rust problem.
Removing above surface bonded contaminants
For this project we used the Speedy Prep Surface Towels. After washing we inspected the paint and sure enough it has a rough, coarse texture. So before using high-end sanding discs it's faster and more cost effective to remove the contaminants before you sand.
Tape off edges, raised body lines, trim and any other area that you want to protect
The 1963 Impala has a raised body lines so we taped these off as well as edges between panels. Paint tends to be thinnest on edges and raised body lines so it's important not to sand over these areas.
Measure paint thickness
Before you do any work to a car it's important to measure the various body panels to get an idea of how thick or how thin the paint it. A paint thickness gauge is used as a "Big Picture Indicator" to help you make the "Go" or "No Go" decision for any paint correction process and especially when you're going to turn loose a group of people new to sanding and using rotary buffers on a custom car with a custom paint job.
Machine sand to level orange peel and surface texture
For this project we used 3M Trizact 3000 Sanding Discs with a variety of dual action polishers including,
- 3M Orbital Air Sander
- Porter Cable 7424XP
- Meguiar's G110v2
- Griot's 6" DA Polisher
- Griot's 3" DA Polisher
Compound paint using rotary buffers to remove sanding marks
For this project we used Meguiar's M100 Pro Speed Compound with Lake Country 100% Wool Cutting pads and a variety of rotary buffers including,
- Flex PE14 lightweight, compact rotary polisher
- DeWALT 849X full size rotary buffer
- Makita 9227 full size rotary buffer
Polish paint using rotary buffers to remove holograms left by compound and wool pad fibers
For this project we used the same rotary buffers but switched over the Meguiar's M205 Ultra Finish Polish and Lake Country Black CCS and Flat Foam Finishing Pads.
Jewel paint to maximize gloss and clarity for a show car finish
For this project we used the same rotary buffers plus Lake Country Gold Jewelling Pads and Menzerna SF 4500
Machine wax to seal the paint
For this project I shared tips and techniques on how to apply a show car finishing wax by hand just so everyone could see how to do this carefully and then shared how to use basic DA polishers like the Porter Cable, Meguiar's and Griot's DA Polishers to machine apply Max Wax a non-cleaning, show car wax.
Now I'll let the pictures do the talking...
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Next we machine waxed the paint to seal it for protection while creating a high gloss, wet-looking shine that everyone loves
For this project I shared tips and techniques on how to apply a show car finishing wax by hand just so everyone could see how to do this carefully and then shared how to use basic DA polishers like the Porter Cable, Meguiar's and Griot's DA Polishers to machine apply Max Wax a non-cleaning, show car wax.
![](http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1750/Wetsanding_Orange_Peel_Class_042.jpg)
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Applying paste wax to the face of a soft foam waxing pad on a DA polisher...
![](http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1750/Wetsanding_Orange_Peel_Class_045.jpg)
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Machine waxing enables you to lay down a thin, uniform layer of wax...
![](http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1750/Wetsanding_Orange_Peel_Class_049.jpg)
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Now it's time to carefully remove the wax using good technique and clean, soft microfiber towels folded 4-ways...
![](http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1750/Wetsanding_Orange_Peel_Class_051.jpg)
![](http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1750/Wetsanding_Orange_Peel_Class_052.jpg)
And here's the final results...
![](http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1730/64and63_Finished_009.jpg)
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![](http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1730/64and63_Finished_014.jpg)
![](http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1730/64and63_Finished_015.jpg)
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For many of the people that attended this class, this was the first time they've
Used a waterless wash and a rinseless wash
Used the Speedy Prep Surface Towel
Taped-off a car
Measured paint thickness
Machine sanded to remove orange peel plus horrendous holograms
Machine compounded using wool pads on rotary buffers with an aggressive compound
Machine polished using foam pads on rotary buffers
Machine jewelled using foam pads on rotary buffers
Machine applied a show car finishing wax
My goal is with all my classes is not to make people experts because you become an expert over time through experience. Instead my goal is to teach the above basic skills and techniques for each of the procedures and most importantly, bring everyone's comfort level up to a higher level to give them the confidence to use these various procedures for all their future detailing projects.
I teach a limited number of classes each year and I make the same promise to everyone at the beginning of the class and that is to pour my heart and soul into the class, (the class means the people), and literally do a brain dump.
For more information on my next classes click the links below...
Advanced Wetsanding & Polishing Classes - February 23rd & 24th - Limited to 8 people
Exclusively focused on all aspects of polishing paint.
Mike Phillips' Detailing Boot Camp - May 4th & 5th, 2013
My bootcamp classes go over both interior detailing as well as exterior detailing.
Both classes are fast paced and heavily hands-on. I guarantee you'll learn a lot and have a lot of fun plus you'll sleep well at the end of each class.
Hope to see you at one of my next classes...
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Re: How to remove orange peel by wet sanding - Advanced Detailing Class
Excellent write up and pictures came out great.
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Re: How to remove orange peel by wet sanding - Advanced Detailing Class
![Quote](https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/images/autogeek/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Italian Guy
Excellent write up and pictures came out great.
Thanks Chris...
Ray here at work was my cameraman and he did a great job.
I like to create these threads to document the kind of projects we work on at our classes so others can see exactly what you get to do and what you get to work on at a class here at Autogeek.
This was a good project and everyone that attended this class can now walk the walk and talk the talk.
This isn't the first class like this here at autogeek and there are more coming up...
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Re: How to remove orange peel by wet sanding - Advanced Detailing Class
hi there, i was wondering why did you don´t use flex 3401 with the 3M trizact system ?
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