Flex PE14-2-150 Shocking

**Zubair** · 12-10-2015, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by Rsurfer

I doubt if 600rpm will correct better than 1200-1500 rpm.

Ofcourse higher speeds will have increased cutting power, however 600rpm speed 1 is faster than a 3401 speed 6 which is 480rpm.

**DBAILEY** · 12-10-2015, 04:36 AM

We're kind of reinventing the wheel here talking about rotary polishers. Why is everyone acting like this is a new discovery?

And a rotary polisher's effectiveness is not limited to just the Flex machines. Now the smaller size of the PE14-2-150 is attractive (I use the Maktia 9227) and the speed dial settings below 600rpm. The PE8 is the one that I really want for small work.

The reason the long throw DA's finish so well is because the BP is usually really spinning like...'a rotary'. Giving us more of that rotary finished look.

If serious correction is needed then it has always been a rotary and usually LC purple foamed wool (or the Megs Solo wool pads if really bad). Its just plain easier. And I have never felt the need to go over 1200 rpms and prefer using the slower speeds around 900-1000. No DA can compare to a rotary for cutting power. Finishing with a rotary is different story as already discussed, but its certainly not impossible.

**DBAILEY** · 12-10-2015, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by Zubair

Ofcourse higher speeds will have increased cutting power, however 600rpm speed 1 is faster than a 3401 speed 6 which is 480rpm.

You can't just compare the rotary revolutions per minute to decide which is better.
The top rotary speed of the 3401 is 480 rpm, but the oscillations (orbits) per minute are like in the thousands (3000-8000 I think). Its the combined movement of the pad.

**7PaintGuns** · 12-10-2015, 06:36 AM

The conversation here directly relates to why I started this one. Year Long 3401 Production Review & Rotary Finish Compairson. I don't think its as easy as simply comparing rotary to da. I think it all has to do with the initial correction process, what products are being used as far as compounds, polishes and pads and what/how a specific stepping process is executed. If anyone has any suggestions as far as testing some of these theories please let me know.

**7PaintGuns** · 12-10-2015, 06:52 AM

On a side note, I know this is specifically a flex pe-14 thread, but I don't think there's any possible way with all circumstances being equal, that one rotary can finish better than another with the same speed specifications. That being said unfortunately I'm going to have to purchase a p14 sometime in the near future because my opinion holds no weight unless I can hold one (pe14) in my hand and do an actual physical comparison. There is no room for speculation when it comes to making money if you ask me!

**Rsurfer** · 12-10-2015, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by 7PaintGuns

On a side note, I know this is specifically a flex pe-14 thread, but I don't think there's any possible way with all circumstances being equal, that one rotary can finish better than another with the same speed specifications. That being said unfortunately I'm going to have to purchase a p14 sometime in the near future because my opinion holds no weight unless I can hold one (pe14) in my hand and do an actual physical comparison. There is no room for speculation when it comes to making money if you ask me!

Get the PE14-2-150 ASAP, you won't regret it.

**Zubair** · 12-15-2015, 09:56 AM

So I used my new LC Thin Pro Grey and B&S Low-Pro Green Extreme cutting pads on my Rupes today. I was really impressed by the cut of these two pads and believe them to be the best foam cutting pads I have ever used. I then took out the PE-14 with a simple LC Orange Light Cutting pad and on speed 2 it once again proved a DA ain't no Rotary. The PE-14 is the best Polisher in the world, nothing else compares!

**WRAPT C5Z06** · 12-15-2015, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Zubair

So I used my new LC Thin Pro Grey and B&S Low-Pro Green Extreme cutting pads on my Rupes today. I was really impressed by the cut of these two pads and believe them to be the best foam cutting pads I have ever used. I then took out the PE-14 with a simple LC Orange Light Cutting pad and on speed 2 it once again proved a DA ain't no Rotary. The PE-14 is the best Polisher in the world, nothing else compares!

I used the BS low pro green with my 3401 and it works very well. It does NOT soften like other cutting pads. Being that it stays very firm, it does take energy to keep the pad flat with the 3401. I have an LC grey thin pro pad on the way to compare. I'm speaking for a different tool than the PE 14, but I thought I'd share my thoughts.

**Zubair** · 12-15-2015, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by WRAPT C5Z06

I used the BS low pro green with my 3401 and it works very well. It does NOT soften like other cutting pads. Being that it stays very firm, it does take energy to keep the pad flat with the 3401. I have an LC grey thin pro pad on the way to compare. I'm speaking for a different tool than the PE 14, but I thought I'd share my thoughts.

I really like the B&S Low-Pro Green and LC ThinPro Grey for DA use. They the best cutting pads for a DA for sure, my only regret was not ordering more but now know my next order will include these again. For DA use they the best pads for sure. The ThinPros spin better however as they lighter and half as thin so stalling is greatly reduced.