Blackfire Waterless Wash (new 1:48 formula) vs Meguiars D115

[The Critic]

I am thinking about trying waterless washes.

The two products I am looking at are Meguiars D115 and Blackfire Waterless Wash.

The "wax protection" is not of interest to me - but I do like a slick surface after cleaning. Which product is the better waterless wash -- my main goal is to find a product with the best lubricity and ease of use.

Thanks!

[FUNX650]

The two products I am looking at are
Meguiars D115 and Blackfire Waterless Wash

The "wax protection" is not of interest to me...

Then, instead, you need to look at Meguiar's D114.
Dilute it @1:128 for a WW.

That's 128 gallons of WW for $32.99...
~25¢ a gallon.

(And don't forget about AGO's Labor Day Sale.)



Bob

[Real Riders]

I agree with Bob. You will not find a more economical Waterless Wash than D114. Some RTU Waterless Wash products from other companies cost as much as $24 for a 32 ounce bottle. At 25 cents a gallon for D114, you can't go wrong

[silverfox]

D114...should be standard on every shelf.

[The Critic]

Then, instead, you need to look at Meguiar's D114.
Dilute it @1:128 for a WW.

That's 128 gallons of WW for $32.99...
~25¢ a gallon.

(And don't forget about AGO's Labor Day Sale.)



Bob

D114 doesn't say that it can be used for waterless, at least not according to the label.

[Real Riders]

If you watch the Meguiars video with Jason Rose and Mike Phillips , Jason uses D114 as Waterless Wash but he mixes it at 1:15. There are posts on Meguiars online that mention using D114 as Waterless Wash at 128:1

[silverfox]

D114 @1:15 is a great IPA alternative...and it can strip wax at that concentration. Its really powerful stuff. 1:128 is correct for waterless wash, label or not. I've used it with excellent results at 1:128.

[expdetailing]

What kind of lubricity do you get with d114 @ 1:128?

[FUNX650]

D114 doesn't say that it can be used for waterless, at least not according to the label.

I just hope that when the time comes that Meguiar's
doesn't pass on the entire costs of upgrading D114's
labels to their Customers. I've become quite fond of
its current price---especially here at AGO's store.

To continue:
In order to avoid any confusion you may have
in regards to D114's dilution ratio(s)...

Here's a more official presentation of some
of the most popular dilution ratios of D114...
and its varied usages, at those dilution ratios:

TO WIT:

Questions about D114 RFEW
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Excerpt from the above thread:

Jul 1st, 2014, 07:32 AM
Michael Stoops
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Re: Questions about D114 RFEW

"We recommend using D114 as a rinseless
wash with a dilution ratio of 1 ounce to two
gallons of water. (1:256)

If you're going to use it as a waterless wash
you should at least double that ratio, 1 ounce
per gallon. (1:128).

As a clay lube, the standard dilution ratio (1:256)
works quite well".


Michael Stoops
Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
(800) 854-8073 xt 3875
mstoops@meguiars.com
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Hope this helps.


Bob

[FUNX650]

What kind of lubricity do you get with d114 @ 1:128?

I say it's the same lubricity, or more, as
ONR has at the same 1:128 dilution ratio.


Bob