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    Megs ULW + D156 = Super Spray Wax?

    So I got 2 gallongs of D156 incoming, and about 1/4 a gallon left here. I also got ULW.

    I was spray waxing my car and thought to myself, "this stuff is like a watered down ULW". Then i thought "i wonder if I can mix the two to make a stronger spray wax.

    Has anyone else thought of this or tried it out? Is ULW water soluble, cause I think D156 is water based.

    Bob or Guz, care to chime in?

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    Re: Megs ULW + D156 = Super Spray Wax?

    It won't flash with the liquid added to the spray. Making the spray harder to use and probably taking the durability of the liquid away.

    But you should try it anyways!

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    Re: Megs ULW + D156 = Super Spray Wax?

    From D156's MSDS:

    SECTION 2: INGREDIENTS
    Ingredient......................CAS #............% by Wt
    •WATER......................7732-18-5............88-98
    •CONDITIONERS.........Trade Secret............<5
    •SWEET ORANGE
    PEEL TINCTURE..............8028-48-6..........0.1-1.0


    SECTION 9: PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROPERTIES
    Solubility in Water...............Complete
    ______________________________________________

    From G182, Ultimate Liquid Wax's MSDS:

    SECTION 2: INGREDIENTS
    Ingredient..................................CAS#.. ........% by Wt
    •NON-HAZARDOUS
    INGREDIENTS............................Mixture.... .......60-80
    •PETROLEUM DISTILLATE.........64742-48-9.........7-13
    •POLY(DIMETHYLSILOXANE).....63148-62-9..........3-7
    •PETROLEUM DISTILLATE.........64742-47-8..........1-5

    SECTION 9: PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROPERTIES
    Solubility in Water....................Moderate
    ______________________________________________

    •A Couple of Questions:
    -At what ratio do you plan on mixing these
    two products (and with what mixing apparatus)?

    -Wonder if Meguiar's T.S. Conditioners, and the
    Orange Tincture that's found in D156...
    will "play well" with Meguiar's selection of the
    petroleum-distillates and PDMS that's found
    in G182?

    -What role, if any, will water play
    in the dilution/mixing processes?



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    Re: Megs ULW + D156 = Super Spray Wax?

    I struggle to find the reasoning behind mixing products. D156 is fantastic as designed by Mequiars. Frankensteining a "stronger" mix will most likely result in streaking.
    There is vast amounts of knowledge at your fingertips, use Google, Youtube, and the search button.

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    Re: Megs ULW + D156 = Super Spray Wax?

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfOC View Post
    I struggle to find the reasoning behind mixing products. D156 is fantastic as designed by Mequiars. Frankensteining a "stronger" mix will most likely result in streaking.
    Just to experiment. After researching other spray waxes, looking to replace my D156, I found out that Optimum's wax, and Black Fire's Midnight Sun spray wax's were both said to be thicker than Meguiar's spray wax.

    However, I didn't see them as being economical enough, since I can get two gallons of D156 for 50 dollars, compared to BF which is like 70 dollars, (Almost 3 times the price gallon to gallon), and also 50 dollars for one gallon of Optimum Wax (Twice the price of D156) so I just got two gallons of D156 instead.

    My reasoning is that maybe if D156 was somewhat thicker, denser, or whatever, by adding some ULW, whether it would be able to create a better spray wax.

    Thank you Bob for the MSDS chemical thing.

    I'll be using a 32 oz spray bottle to mix them in, but I don't plan on making a whole bottle worth. Maybe just 8 oz worth. I'll go with 1:1, give it a shake and go. If it's too thick or something, I'll just keep adding D156 to keep watering it down to find a good ratio. I'm gonna guess that I'm going to end at a 1:4 ratio. All of which is if the ULW can dissolve or mix into the D156.

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    Re: Megs ULW + D156 = Super Spray Wax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAverageMan View Post
    Just to experiment. After researching other spray waxes, looking to replace my D156, I found out that Optimum's wax, and Black Fire's Midnight Sun spray wax's were both said to be thicker than Meguiar's spray wax.

    However, I didn't see them as being economical enough, since I can get two gallons of D156 for 50 dollars, compared to BF which is like 70 dollars, (Almost 3 times the price gallon to gallon), and also 50 dollars for one gallon of Optimum Wax (Twice the price of D156) so I just got two gallons of D156 instead.

    My reasoning is that maybe if D156 was somewhat thicker, denser, or whatever, by adding some ULW, whether it would be able to create a better spray wax.

    Thank you Bob for the MSDS chemical thing.

    I'll be using a 32 oz spray bottle to mix them in, but I don't plan on making a whole bottle worth. Maybe just 8 oz worth. I'll go with 1:1, give it a shake and go. If it's too thick or something, I'll just keep adding D156 to keep watering it down to find a good ratio. I'm gonna guess that I'm going to end at a 1:4 ratio. All of which is if the ULW can dissolve or mix into the D156.
    BFMDSW is not the same as UQW. It has carnauba wax in it. Whereas megs is fully synthetic.

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    Re: Megs ULW + D156 = Super Spray Wax?

    What does it mean to "flash"?

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    Re: Megs ULW + D156 = Super Spray Wax?

    Quote Originally Posted by shagnat View Post
    What does it mean to "flash"?
    To cure, looks like it's evaporating off the paint. Meaning little to no buffing after.

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