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Menzerna 400, 4000, 4500
I have a 2014 Black Accord with very soft paint. Tends to get usual minor swirls spider webbing etc. I usually wash it now with ONR. I've used blackfire's SRC with very good results, but I've been looking at Menzerna products and want to see if I can get a little more shine. ( I also have white BMW harder paint)
So would you recommend getting 400 and finishing with the 4500? Or am I better off with 4000 and the 4500? Or will the 4500 alone be acceptable?
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Re: Menzerna 400, 4000, 4500
I use FG400 and SF4500. That is me. I love this combo and it has done very well for me. SF4500 will get rid of minor scratches with ease. SF4000 has more cut but IMO we are splitting hairs. You can't go wrong with either SF4000 or SF4500. FG400 is a must for compounding.
CJ
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Re: Menzerna 400, 4000, 4500
Yeah, splitting hairs here. I like the 400 followed by the 4000. It's more than LSP ready after finishing 'er off w/ 4000 or 4500. Great products, they do their job and are easy to work with. Good luck.
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Darrin
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Re: Menzerna 400, 4000, 4500
On soft black Honda paint, a compound is not needed. Check out other Menzerna polishes that are a little more aggressive than 4000 or 4500. My favorite for soft black paint that is in good condition is Sonax 4/6 Perfect Finish.
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Soft paint I'd be thinking more along the lines of 2500/4500 combo. Especially if the car doesn't need heavy correction.
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Great. Thanks for all the helpful info.
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Surf, Crew,
You guys are mostly likely on target. I sometimes forget to remind folks they need to do a test spot. It's just so engrained in my mind that I take that for granted. I detailed my wife's 2011 Civic lately and 400/4000/Powerlock is what I used. Granted her paint was lacking some love. I agree, with a better paint condition the 4000 or 4500 should do the trick, you can always adjust with the pads. Take care all.
Peace,
Darrin
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Re: Menzerna 400, 4000, 4500
Originally Posted by Ccrew
Soft paint I'd be thinking more along the lines of 2500/4500 combo. Especially if the car doesn't need heavy correction.
I will have to agree on that. Honda is soft paint and FG400 is fine for correcting scratches whether they be deep or not. You do not have to make as many passes with FG400 as Honda paint is soft. Additionally, I will follow up with SF4500 and not have any issues.
Here is a Honda I worked on about 6 months ago with FG400 and followed up with SF4500.
Now for very minor scratches IMO SF4000 or SF4500 would be fine by itself for minor polishing. Again, my opinion....The good thing about Soft Paint it is so easy to correct with the right product. So
CJ
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Re: Menzerna 400, 4000, 4500
Originally Posted by Kamakaz1961
I am going to have to disagree on that. Honda is soft paint I know that, however, FG400 is fine for correcting scratches whether they be deep or not. You do not have to make as many passes with FG400 as Honda paint is soft. Additionally, I will follow up with SF4500 and not have any issues.
FG400 IMO is fine. Here is a Honda I worked on about 6 months ago with FG400 and followed up with SF4500.
Damn, you guys make agreeing on something extremely difficult.
Kaz, You have a point, I personally would take 400 to a lightly blemished surface without any problem, again technique and pad choice does make a difference. Menzera products finish out about as nice as you can get. I agree with everybody.... Hahahaha.....
Peace,
Darrin
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Re: Menzerna 400, 4000, 4500
Originally Posted by Souldetailer
Damn, you guys make agreeing on something extremely difficult.
Kaz, You have a point, I personally would take 400 to a lightly blemished surface without any problem, again technique and pad choice does make a difference. Menzera products finish out about as nice as you can get. I agree with everybody.... Hahahaha.....
Peace,
Darrin
I am sorry!!! I reworked my quote. I did not realize I said I had to disagree!!
I AGREE!!!!! Again,my apologies!!! FG400 can be used with finesse or hard correction. SF4500 or SF4000 can be used effectively with minor scratches. Bottom line any of these Menzerna products should be fine!!!
CJ
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