autogeekonline car wax, car care and auto detailing forum Autogeek on TV
car wax, car care and auto detailing forumAutogeekonline autogeekonline car wax, car care and auto detailing forum HomeForumBlogAutogeek.net StoreDetailing Classes with Mike PhillipsGalleryDetailing How To's
 
Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 20
  1. #1
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    8
    Post Thanks / Like

    Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    I currently own a 1983 Mercedes-Benz 300D. The car has a paint color of light ivory and is the original paint on the car. The overall appearance of the paint is good – however there is some cracking noticeable when examined closely. I drive the car often (at least 3-4 days per week) and I would like to preserve the originality of the car, including the paint, as long as possible.

    I have been using Klasse acrylic paint sealer about every other time I wash the car – and I sometimes use Pinnacle Souveran wax over that. I apply the Klasse with a microfiber or foam applicator – then buff off with a microfiber cloth. I apply the Pinnacle Souveran wax similarly, but buff off with a random orbital polisher with a microfiber bonnet.

    After doing more research, however, it seems this might not be the best combination. This is chiefly because it appears the Klasse is for newer paints – not a paint finish from 1983. A quote from the website indicates Klasse is “…for new cars and oxidation-free surfaces…”.

    My goal is primarily to preserve and protect the original paint as long as possible. That said, what are some recommended products and/or techniques to best care for this type of paint?

    Helpful comments from this knowledgeable community are appreciated.

    Thanks…

  2. #2
    Super Member aim4squirrels's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    DFW Texas
    Posts
    1,078
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    If it's a single stage laquer type paint, try Megs #7 or 3M imperial hand glaze.

    I don't know if anything will fix actual cracking, though.


    Here's some info from the man:

    http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...car-glaze.html

  3. #3
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    8
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    Thanks for the suggestions. I'm curious why these particular products would be recommended. According to the product descriptions, they're designed to be used on brand new paint??

  4. #4
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    8
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    I just read a large article on this site about the #7 regarding its history and use to condition old paint and to remove oxidation. It would seem that using this product first, then following up with Collinite 845 would be a good way to go.

    Am I right?

  5. #5
    Super Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Chandler, AZ
    Posts
    3,360
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    #7 has been around a very long time and was/is the sealant of choice for high end cars of 70's / 80's.

    It's very safe, both on clear and one stage paints. It has minerals and lubricants. It will also hide minor cosmetic defects in paint.

    It's an old faithful.

  6. #6
    Super Member davey g-force's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,225
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    Do you have any pics?

    Are you trying to remove scratches / swirls / other defects as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Rose
    I am cursed for life because I can never look at beautiful paint without seeing the defects

  7. #7
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    9
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    Zaino Z3 is for single stage paint.

    Zaino Store : Z-3 Show Car Polish for Regular Paint

  8. #8
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    8
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    Sure - here are some pics of the paint on the car.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint-image7-jpg   Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint-image8-jpg   Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint-image6-jpg   Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint-image1-jpg  

  9. #9
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    8
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    And - here's a pic of the car.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint-img_1477-jpg  

  10. #10
    Super Member davey g-force's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,225
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Best Products and Techniques for Older Paint

    Ok, so you won't be able to remove all that cracking, but you could definitely make an improvement to most of it. There's some that looks much shallower, like fine scratches, which I reckon will come out.

    I'd try to replenish the paint first with a good soaking or two of M7 first. Do a search for Mike Phillips' thread here about how to restore single stage paint using M7.

    If you want to do any correction, you would then apply a compound and/or polish, then lock it all in with a sealant and/or wax.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Rose
    I am cursed for life because I can never look at beautiful paint without seeing the defects

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Glass Polishing-techniques and products
    By JohnnyAb in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 11-04-2015, 11:51 AM
  2. Products / Techniques for white top & interior
    By ComputerChip in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-22-2014, 11:10 AM
  3. First 5-step Detailing. Please help with the products and techniques.
    By rebanee in forum Ask your detailing questions!
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 08-05-2014, 06:15 PM
  4. Looking for any info on older products
    By PRicci09 in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-30-2013, 10:37 AM
  5. Older Menzerna products.
    By miker911 in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 06-29-2011, 01:16 AM

Members who have read this thread: 0

There are no members to list at the moment.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» April 2024

S M T W T F S
31 1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 1234