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    Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    I am detailing a black 2000 Viper GTS that has 6,000 miles on it. The paint is in really good shape with small scratches and swirls. I have done one step with a Flex with a "pink" Lake Country CCS pad using the Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover and the paint looked great but had just a few scratches left. I then went to do the 2nd step and with a "white" Lake Country CCS pad using the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze; when I removed the polish I noticed that the paint had a slight haze to it when it was applied. I then did another test spot on the hood and when I removed the polish the paint had a lot of small scratches.
    I have done paint correction on a lot of cars and trucks from Jeeps to Ferrari's and i have never had any issues like this car.

    I am up for any suggestions on what I should do on this Black Viper.
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    Re: Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    How clean was your pad?

    Another thing to think may be that it's really soft paint. Try polishing with the finishing glaze and a red pad.
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    Re: Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    The pad was clean i just pulled it out of the sealed package it comes in.
    I did try to put a Menzerna finishing glaze on it with a red pad and it didn't seem to change a thing.

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    Re: Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    Try changing pressure, number of section passes (even if it's just one), and pad rotation speed (machine speed). Just did a Porsche today and had the "tiny little scratches" issue exactly as you described. Whenever I don't get what I expect, I vary those.
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    Re: Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    Thanks, I will try that tomorrow.
    What about the haze on the surface?
    The temp was around mid to high 70's and the humidity was 69% do you think this could cause any of the hazing issues?
    I just turned the a/c on to cool it down in there.

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    Re: Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by billetkustoms View Post
    Thanks, I will try that tomorrow.
    What about the haze on the surface?
    The temp was around mid to high 70's and the humidity was 69% do you think this could cause any of the hazing issues?
    I just turned the a/c on to cool it down in there.
    Don't think temp was an issue
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    Re: Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    Get ready to pull your hair out!

    This is the softest paint I have ever worked on. What wored for me was Sonax EX 04-06 on a black buff and shine pad with the 3401 speed 3 light pressure.

    Use a detailer to help aid in product removal to reduce towel markings
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    Re: Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    I just did one on Friday.

    Used Menzerna 4500 and tangerine LC hydro-tech pads on my Flex to finish. It turned out phenomenal.




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    Re: Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    Here is the one I did corrected and coated with Gtechniq



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    Re: Black Viper GTS Help!!!

    There are many possible reasons for the haze you describe however micro-marring seems to be the best theory so far (based on the car and color). One thing to consider in the equation is if the test spot does not pan out (following normal thinking) that sometimes you have to think outside the box. I am not saying this may be the case on this car but have you considered that the softer pad to finish down the 2 step may be too soft and that the micro marring may be due to pad wobble? I've had a couple of super soft paints which I actually finished with Reflect on a orange LC pad and even went as far as a CarPro Flash pad. It may sound like counter-intuitive thinking to go with a harder pad, but that is what experience and test spots help confirm. With a change in product, pad you can also change technique, speed, machine etc...

    Good luck!

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