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    Which do you think would be the better topper?

    With the current sale I am debating getting a wax topper for the gloss coat I purchased during the BF sale.

    So which would you go with PBL Synergy or BF Midnight Sun (I would get the wet ice over fire kit, but the AFPP would be for any other vehicles I end up doing)?

    I may end up just waiting and seeing how much I like gloss coat as well but the sale bug is nipping at my heels.
    It's all in the details

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    Re: Which do you think would be the better topper?

    If you are going with PBMG Group Pinnacle Souveran is awesome. IMO, better than Synergy. I have both. As for Midnight Sun I cannot comment as I have not tried it yet.

    I know Synergy will last longer as it is a hybrid. Souveran offers better wet look, depth and gloss IMO.
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    Re: Which do you think would be the better topper?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakaz1961 View Post
    If you are going with PBMG Group Pinnacle Souveran is awesome. IMO, better than Synergy. I have both. As for Midnight Sun I cannot comment as I have not tried it yet.

    I know Synergy will last longer as it is a hybrid. Souveran offers better wet look, depth and gloss IMO.
    Was actually thinking that as well because I have the durability taken care of with the coating underneath. Ok so Souveran vs. MS. This is mainly for my grey metallic evo then wifeys royal blue pearl acura perhaps too.

    Thanks for the feedback Kamakaz! You mentioned if I'm going with PBMG is there something else you recommend I am open minded.
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    Re: Which do you think would be the better topper?

    I'll say that to top a Coating
    (or even a Wax/Sealant/Glaze)...?

    How about:
    Mothers Reflections Advanced Top Coat tops your Mothers Car Wax to increase shine and reflection. Its the finishing touch on any Mothers finish.

    As Mothers says:
    "Top Coat is the quintessential last step in the ultimate detailing process".


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    Re: Which do you think would be the better topper?

    Quote Originally Posted by EVOlved View Post
    Was actually thinking that as well because I have the durability taken care of with the coating underneath. Ok so Souveran vs. MS. This is mainly for my grey metallic evo then wifeys royal blue pearl acura perhaps too.

    Thanks for the feedback Kamakaz! You mentioned if I'm going with PBMG is there something else you recommend I am open minded.
    I can't think of anything. IMO, PBMG has top notch products. I am looking into the Blackfire Midnight Sun as a Christmas gift. However, if you could only get 1 product I would choose Souveran over Mid Sun. But do not quote me as I can't comment on Midnight Sun. I would assume it is awesome too.

    I know I am not a happy camper with hybrid waxes. I have tried over 3 brands and went back to the carnauba waxes. IMO some depth and wet look is lost because different process.

    That is my opinion and I am sure there are other different opinions.
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    Re: Which do you think would be the better topper?

    Midnight Sun. Looks great and lasts longer than Souveran.

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    Re: Which do you think would be the better topper?

    This was Synergy of UK



    Another one I've used over UK was Polish Angel Centurion

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    Re: Which do you think would be the better topper?

    Quote Originally Posted by EVOlved View Post
    With the current sale I am debating getting a wax topper for the gloss coat I purchased during the BF sale.

    So which would you go with PBL Synergy or BF Midnight Sun (I would get the wet ice over fire kit, but the AFPP would be for any other vehicles I end up doing)?

    I may end up just waiting and seeing how much I like gloss coat as well but the sale bug is nipping at my heels.
    Midnight Sun is great, and highly under rated, especially for the cost of the combo kit.
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    Re: Which do you think would be the better topper?

    Quote Originally Posted by JHL88 View Post
    Midnight Sun. Looks great and lasts longer than Souveran.


    Souveran is a ***superb*** show-car wax on darker shades, but durability is about 9 rain drops.
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    Re: Which do you think would be the better topper?

    Order complete ended up ordering the Wet Ice over Fire kit, Wheel Woolies, D120 with bottle and sprayer. I got my free MF suprise, sample (Uber compound), and AG stickers!! Got it all for $84.60 thanks to the previous gift certificate special!

    I think my girlfriend and wallet may kill me this holiday but I love you AG!!

    P.S. I hope you will marry me when she leaves me
    It's all in the details

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