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    Newbie Member Aririguzo's Avatar
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    What the hell is this?

    This is a E-350.. 2004, and this is the bottom of the vehicle. It looks to me like right on top of that, it was compounded and they didn't do the bottom? Readings around it are very low. I'm confused, any help would be appreciated thanks guys. I'm new to this polishing gig.

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    Does anyone know what's going on here with this? What the hell is this?-imageuploadedbyagonline1415906672-107140-jpg

    Surrounding areas have low readings.

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    Re: What the hell is this?

    Looks like lots of rock chips and you have an area that has been fixed.

    Make some markings or drawings of the area and map out where the thick areas are that will give you a good indication of the fixed area.

    2 mils is low so you caution on those areas
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    Re: What the hell is this?

    That kind of looks like crow's feet...

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    Re: What the hell is this?

    Mix of rock chips and bad case of crow's feet!

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    Re: What the hell is this?

    What are crows feet?

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    Re: What the hell is this?

    Some people attribute this to heat. I've only seen this in factory finishes (at least in my experience) and I had a painter tell me once that he feels it could be from the paint "baking" process (which falls back to the "heat" thing) and having the heat source to close and too long on the vehicle finish. I personally have no idea what causes this and would have to guess some type of contamination or bad prep in the primer or basecoat stage.

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    Re: What the hell is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aririguzo View Post
    What are crows feet?
    Clearcoat failure

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    Re: What the hell is this?

    Wow this is new information... Thanks guys. Ok so from this point, what's my best bet?

    Applying a sealant?

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    Re: What the hell is this?

    You can use the Microns reading on your machine and it will be more sensitive to accuracy than using the Mils reading..
    This is because it takes 25.4 Microns to make 1 Mil, get it ? When you want to see if you removed just a little material from the spot, you will see the Microns number change immediately when you do..

    The spot you showed 12 Mils is 304.8 microns - a LOT of material not necessarily all Paint in that area..

    And yes, as has already been said, something happened there and was repaired and painted again..

    The adjacent (?) area where you show just 2 mils is 50.8 Microns, a very low number and probably like that because someone rubbed the paint too long with a compound and probably the dirty, wool or wool blend 7" pad you see at most auto body paint shops..

    It is all damaged there for lots of reasons, and cannot be helped that much at the low reading place, but perhaps my be able to come out better at the higher reading area..

    What I always try to do on every car in the Shop is make the correction all "Match" as much as possible...

    So, you should adjust your work on that damaged panel so as to not remove more material from the low area/s and see if you can match the correction if possible from the surrounding paint at that level only...

    If the paint is good at the higher part of the panel especially along the Sight Lines - the area/s most eyes fall on when looking at the panel, then all that higher area can be corrected better and as your eyes go down the panel, the damaged areas can look about as good as they can get..

    Just remember you cannot fix damaged by cracks or rock chips, etc., paintwork very much before you may start to make it worse..

    Slower speeds for sure and watching very carefully what is going on, stopping frequently and wiping it off, measuring, etc..
    Good luck !
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