is this normal for Duragloss 501?

**miad** · 10-22-2014, 06:12 PM

I also didn't let it cure at all, if I was supposed to. put it on via GG6, wiped of seconds later.

**Klasse Act** · 10-22-2014, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by miad

I also didn't let it cure at all, if I was supposed to. put it on via GG6, wiped of seconds later.

Yeah there's no need to let it sit other than if you wanna keep your rythem of just applying it to the entire car and then having the rythem of removing it all at once.

DG #501 should really be considered for cleaning the paint after surface decontamination and then applying a dedicated LSP afterwards. That said, since its so easy to use, you could use DG #501 as a stand alone if you were to applying it once a month though and I for one see NO issue with doing this either

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**BillyJack** · 10-22-2014, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by richy

I think when you used 501, it was cleaning your paint more than protecting it. That's why I always recommend a 2 step process with 501/601 to start followed immediately by 105/601 (or 111/601). I use 501 as a cleaner product.

richy,
Thanks to the info posted by you, with add'l help from Dad07, I've learned a lot about DG and have become quite a DG fan.
I've always used the 1:4 601 mix with my first step when layering, but not the second. If you're doing the mix with both layers, you obviously see an advantage.
Care to elaborate?

Bill

**RTexasF** · 10-22-2014, 06:58 PM

501 is primarily a chemical paint cleaner with a small amount of sealant. 105 is a light chemical cleaner with a large amount of sealant. Did you use the wrong product?

**miad** · 10-22-2014, 07:12 PM

no, I only own 1 DG product, its 501. will be buying 601 or 105 to mix with it, what do you recommend?

I bought it to use on my white Benz because I heard it works great on white, haven't tried it yet. tried it on a Slate colored 2014 Corolla yesterday and it looked really nice.

**davidc** · 10-22-2014, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by miad

no, I only own 1 DG product, its 501. will be buying 601 or 105 to mix with it, what do you recommend?

I bought it to use on my white Benz because I heard it works great on white, haven't tried it yet. tried it on a Slate colored 2014 Corolla yesterday and it looked really nice.

601/105 good for at least a year. Minor cleaning, no correction, excellent durability.
601/111 (Pure sealant no correction or cleaning) verdict is still out on durability but working on 4 months so far with 932 rinseless washes.

Dave

**miad** · 10-22-2014, 07:52 PM

that's the problem I see with DG products. too many mixes, too many options. can mix 501 with 601, but then can throw in 105, or 111 and get something else. I know none of them offer much of any correction, so what if I mixed like 3 parts 501, 1 part 105 and 1 part 601? seems like it would be the most cleaning, the best bonding, and the best possible sealant, no? but AG also recommends using 601 first without wiping off, then hitting with 105. really confusing for a product that I can buy locally, unlike most, and would like to understand more about. help!!

**Klasse Act** · 10-22-2014, 07:54 PM

#601 is to be mixed in with either #501, 105 or 111 to make the product more durable. It has a shelf life of 12 hrs once #601 is mixed in with either of the 3 products, so keep this in mind

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**davidc** · 10-22-2014, 08:13 PM

That is the beauty of 601. You can mix it with any of the sealants for added durability and do the whole vehicle or if only doing a spot recoat you can apply 601 and your choice of sealant over it with out mixing then there is no waste. You do not have to mix as it just saves a step when doing the whole vehicle.

Dave

**richy** · 10-22-2014, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by BillyJack

richy,
Thanks to the info posted by you, with add'l help from Dad07, I've learned a lot about DG and have become quite a DG fan.
I've always used the 1:4 601 mix with my first step when layering, but not the second. If you're doing the mix with both layers, you obviously see an advantage.
Care to elaborate?

Bill

Bill, Adding 601 does 2 things:
1) Allows the mix to be topped immediately without the 12 hour curing window

2) Adds longevity to the protection of the other ingredient; in essence makes it stronger.

Kinda like adding the 2 parts of epoxy glue although that might not be a great example b/c 501 or the others do work on their own, it's just they have added protection when mixed with 601.

Hope that helps.