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    Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase

    Quote Originally Posted by tdekany View Post
    Largest or #1?
    I put the statement in quotes, because it is a verbatim repetition of the statement made in the video on your website

    Is HD either, the "Largest" or "#1" ?

    Are you going to make some obscure argument that any manufacturer can claim to be #1


    Click the link to your own website and watch the video

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    Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase

    Quote Originally Posted by allenk4 View Post
    I put the statement in quotes, because it is a verbatim repetition of the statement made in the video on your website

    Is HD either, the "Largest" or "#1" ?

    Are you going to make some obscure argument that any manufacturer can claim to be #1


    Click the link to your own website and watch the video
    I am not arguing about anything. You asked me a question - First if 3D was the largest, then you changed it to #1.

    So which answer did you really want?

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    Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase

    Quote Originally Posted by allenk4 View Post
    By the way Thomas, I just heard that 3D is, "The World's largest car care brand".

    Is that true?
    Quote Originally Posted by tdekany View Post
    I am not arguing about anything. You asked me a question - First if 3D was the largest, then you changed it to #1.

    So which answer did you really want?



    I didn't change a thing


    I asked if you were going to make a secondary argument. I never said you were arguing. We are having a discussion


    I thought the question was clear regarding the video on your website

    The claim in the video was stated verbatim

    I was asking a second question: "Is HD either, the "Largest" or "#1" ?"


    I believe the answer to both questions is the same

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    Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase

    Quote Originally Posted by allenk4 View Post
    I didn't change a thing


    I asked if you were going to make a secondary argument. I never said you were arguing. We are having a discussion


    I thought the question was clear regarding the video on your website

    The claim in the video was stated verbatim

    I was asking a second question: "Is HD either, the "Largest" or "#1" ?"


    I believe the answer to both questions is the same
    If you know the answer, why are you even asking?

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    Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase

    "Largest or #1?"

    SERIOUSLY!

    Poe-tae-toe ... pah-tah-toe. Are we really hearing ourselves here?

    So if we say(at least in some parts of the world) Christianity is the most popular, but Hinduism is #1 and Islam is the largest then all those will be correct?

    Me thinks NOT!

    (FWIW Christianity is both the largest, and by default #1 followed by Islam as the second largest. ON THE PLANET!)

    So NO, 3D isn't #1 (except in the eyes of some users, those that have found, love, and appreciate it).

    Doing a quick Google search you might come up with this list of top 7.
    Turbo Wax Shampoo
    Turtle Wax Carnauba Cleaner
    Lane's Safe Wheel Cleaner
    Chemical Guys Jetseal 109
    Eagle One Tire Shine
    Rejuvenate Anti-Fog Window Cleaner
    Lane's Interior Shine

    Doing another you'll find a top ten that reads.
    Leatherique
    Optimum Poli-Seal
    Grit Guard
    Optimum No Rinse
    Meguiar's M105/M205 Polish system
    Blackfire Wet Diamond Paint Sealant
    Chemical Guys EZ Cream
    EZ Detail Brush (the blue version of the Daytona brush)
    DI The Great White Microfiber towel
    Meguiar's Quick Interior Detailer (the consumer version no less)

    Pop over to Amazon and they'll tell you the TEN Best Selling Car Care Products are:
    Meguiar's X2020 Supreme Shine Microfiber Towels
    Leather Honey Leather Conditioner
    Meguiar's X2000 Water Magnet
    3M Headlight Lens Restoration System
    Meguiar's Gold Class Car Wash
    Scotchgard Leather Protector for Suede and Nubuck
    K&N 99-5000 Aerosol Recharger Filter Care Service Kit
    Meguiar's Quick Interior Detailer (WOW that's TWO list's it's on!)
    Meguiar's Microfiber Wash Mitt
    Mothers Wheel Brush

    Strangly enough we don't see 3D on any of those lists. And even Anthony Orosco doesn't even mention 3D in his list, but does like Klasse AIO, HT-61 "Smooth Cut" Swirl Remover, and "Trade Secret" Carnauba Wax.

    And Brian Guy at AOWheels in FL says THE CONSUMER is the BEST detailing product in the world.

    Imagine that, the CONSUMER. Didn't see that one coming in the whole OC/2.0/OCP world. Think perhaps that THAT same consumer may also be the one confused by Optimum referring to "Pro" as Opti-Coat given adding different nomenclature(s) is the one thing that was left up to the installer. Were we one of the non knowing, non researching, non auto detailing forum types when we showed up to have our car done and the guy on the other end of the buffer says two words, "Opti-Coat" would we know to ask if it were PRO or just the lowly consumer version that USED TO last a puny 5 years?

    Again, me thinks not.

    So yeah....
    Poe-tae-toe ... pah-tah-toe. Are we really hearing ourselves here?

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    Re: Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase

    This thread went bonkers... lol

    I have a joke... lol (might put a smile on some of your faces )


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