Opticoat 2.0 discontinued, OptiCoat Pro sees price increase

[builthatch]

I am very interested in these "paint/coating industry standards"

Specifically, how they are applied to the claims made by OPT for their coating longevity and thickness

This is probably the one that is most directly related to longevity:

D1014 - 09 Standard Practice for Conducting Exterior Exposure Tests of Paints and Coatings on Metal Substrates


Sounds like you have a lot of inside information

hehe, there are all kinds of weathering and corrosion tests that i'm sure he conducts to guarantee efficacy and claims. it's not a matter of having inside info, it's just what PhD chemists do when they own a company that sells products within certain markets.

[FUNX650]

This is probably the one that is most directly related to longevity:

D1014 - 09 Standard Practice for Conducting Exterior Exposure Tests of Paints and Coatings on Metal Substrates

hehe, there are all kinds of weathering and corrosion tests that i'm sure he conducts to guarantee efficacy and claims. it's not a matter of having inside info, it's just what PhD chemists do when they own a company that sells products within certain markets.

•Many people, who aren't PhD Chemists, yet own Companies that sells products within certain markets...have the same opportunity for Third-Party corrosion and weathering testing---as long as they have the money to cover the costs of doing so.

•In-House Testing often causes me to have a
"raised eyebrow" reaction.


•Below is an example of the "Florida Weathering Test":




Bob

[builthatch]

•Many people, who aren't PhD Chemists, yet own Companies that sells products within certain markets...have the same opportunity for Third-Party corrosion and weathering testing---as long as they have the money to cover the costs of doing so.

•In-House Testing often causes me to have a
"raised eyebrow" reaction.


•Below is an example of the "Florida Weathering Test":




Bob

yeah i'm not sure if he's doing them in-house or not, but i am sure he's doing them or having them done. in such a non-standardized industry like detailing, a man with the integrity of Dr. G would probably save money doing it in-house since he knows it all inside and out and i can't fault him for that IF that's the case. the dude is legit.

anyway, yeah - there is a coating marine exposure testing site near me that i pass every time i go to the beach. figure six in the link - Performance Evaluation of One-Coat Systems for New Steel Bridges - FHWA-HRT-11-046

[StuDLei]

Maybe it is just a misunderstanding of what average is?

They look at all registered vehicles. Some are new, some are old. Take the total age of all registered vehicles and divide by the total number of registered vehicles


I don't want to second guess your grocery store parking lot observation, but the statistic I quoted is from R.L. Polk it is quoted in this article from Auto News:

http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...oreUserAgent=1

Right, the median age would be much more meaningful in this instance.

[allenk4]

Right, the median age would be much more meaningful in this instance.

Why is that?

[StuDLei]

Why is that?

Well, if the median is 8, you know 50% of cars on the road are 0-8 years old. It would be nice to know what the median and average age of cars actually driven (daily) are. Wonder if it would differ.

[allenk4]

Well, if the median is 8, you know 50% of cars on the road are 0-8 years old. It would be nice to know what the median and average age of cars actually driven (daily) are. Wonder if it would differ.

You have average and median confused

[StuDLei]

You have average and median confused

lol, no, no I don't.

How to Find the Median Value

[StuDLei]

Let's say there are 10 cars on the road today in America.

Here are their respective ages:

1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 11, 16, 34, 70.

Average age: 15.6 years

Median age: 10 years.

The average age of cars in the U.S. isn't very useful when trying to determine how many cars on the road would be eligible for Optimum's warranty. 90% of the cars on the road could be less than five years old, but if 10% are 100 years old, the average is going to go way up. The median tells you much more.

For example:

90% of cars are 5 years old and 10% are 100 years old. The average age of a vehicle is then [(90x5)+(10x100)]/100=14.5 years, even though 90% of the cars on the road are only 5 years old.

[jarred767]

I was thinkin the same thing when I read about the "average" age of the cars out there statistic. I'm sure that number is artificially high due to all the classic cars in people's garages and old trucks on farms that drive up averages. Median age would be much more accurate (or at least a better representation) of cars actually driven on a daily basis.