IPA wipedown to remove polymers?

**Autogk** · 06-09-2014, 06:35 AM

Im trying to determine if my OC 2.0 failed. My hood is not beading in this morning's rain storm (it's just soaked with a pool of water). All other panels are somewhat beading. There is a lot of pollen in the air and this may be the cause but my wife's vehicle is beading better with a 2 month old sealant.
I wash with ONR and need to remove the polymers it leaves behind, otherwise I may get false results. All of my other washes contain wax, so no help there.
So does anyone know if an IPA wipedown will remove the polymers left behind by ONR?

Thanks

**Setec Astronomy** · 06-09-2014, 06:39 AM

The problem with your theory is that the ONR polymers should be helping with the beading, not hindering it.

**Autogk** · 06-09-2014, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

The problem with your theory is that the ONR polymers should be helping with the beading, not hindering it.

No, we are on the same page. I'm trying to remove the polymers bc I don't want the polymers to cause the beading. I want to test my coating.

**nubaseal** · 06-09-2014, 07:03 AM

A wash with Optimum Power Clean should sort you out.

**swanicyouth** · 06-09-2014, 08:28 AM

If I was you I would clay it and then wipe down with IPA. I'm sorry to tell you this, but if you think your OC may have failed - it probably has. My roof is OC'ed and it beads strongly no matter how dirty/filthy/salt covered the car is. Of course I'm sure it's possible for some contaminate to kill the beading, but it's not easy IME.

Maybe this could help... On a flat surface or a hood, OC beading should look like this:

**Autogk** · 06-09-2014, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by swanicyouth

If I was you I would clay it and then wipe down with IPA. I'm sorry to tell you this, but if you think your OC may have failed - it probably has. My roof is OC'ed and it beads strongly no matter how dirty/filthy/salt covered the car is. Of course I'm sure it's possible for some contaminate to kill the beading, but it's not easy IME.

Maybe this could help... On a flat surface or a hood, OC beading should look like this:

Thanks. I just don't get it. I just applied it a few weeks ago. And I even applied a second coat (within 1 week of the 1st,optimum told me this was ok as long as it's in the 30 day curing window).
I clayed and did a paint correction, followed by Detailers Coating prep polish.

**swanicyouth** · 06-09-2014, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Autogk

Thanks. I just don't get it. I just applied it a few weeks ago. And I even applied a second coat (within 1 week of the 1st,optimum told me this was ok as long as it's in the 30 day curing window).
I clayed and did a paint correction, followed by Detailers Coating prep polish.

Dunno. I use all Optimum products when I did this as they recommend. I think it's important to follow coating manufacturers instructions to a T using the exact products they recommend for prep.

With Optimum, it's an Optimum polish followed by an IPA wipe down.

**Autogk** · 06-09-2014, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by swanicyouth

Dunno. I use all Optimum products when I did this as they recommend. I think it's important to follow coating manufacturers instructions to a T using the exact products they recommend for prep.

With Optimum, it's an Optimum polish followed by an IPA wipe down.

AG recommends the Detailers prep polish, that's why I bought it. I'm hoping it's just the pollen layer preventing beading.

**Evan.J** · 06-09-2014, 09:09 AM

How thick or how thin did you apply the coating?

Did you let the coating sit and level for 5-10 mins before removing and excess?

Did you let the sit for at a minimum of 24 hours and not being exposed
To any moisture?

After you did the entire car how much coating was left over?

I've used the prep polish numerous times with coatings and I have yet to have an issue.

I'm not a huge fan of layering OC

**Autogk** · 06-09-2014, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Evan.J

How thick or how thin did you apply the coating?

Did you let the coating sit and level for 5-10 mins before removing and excess?

Did you let the sit for at a minimum of 24 hours and not being exposed
To any moisture?

After you did the entire car how much coating was left over?

I've used the prep polish numerous times with coatings and I have yet to have an issue.

I'm not a huge fan of layering OC

I did 3 applications bc I have a fullsize truck and couldn't do the whole job in one day (paint correction).
First application: I used about 6 CC for my front doors, fenders and hood. The next day I went under an overpass and a little water hit the hood and beaded nicely.
Second application: A few days later, I applied to my rear doors, fenders and rear gate. On the same day I applied another coat to the front doors, fenders and hood bc I thought I may have missed a few spots and wiped some panels to soon w my initial application (that was my learning curve).
Third application: did my roof and second coat on the rear doors, fenders, gate.

On my second and third application I made sure to let it flash off. I did pretty well on my first application just may have wiped a couple sections too soon, but probably not.

I have 9 CC left over.

If it makes any difference I'm parked under a tree and had pollen on the hood. Could the pollen/run off from the tree be causing OC to not bead?
I want to believe it's still on there bc I can still see a small water spot outline from the day water dripped on the hood which I'm pretty sure was in the coating.