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    Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 technique critique and dusting problems

    Using a Griots Garage 6" DA buffer and 5.5" Lake County Hydro-tech pads. Detailing a 2012 Chevy Cruze in Crystal Red Tintcoat (leased - do they apply some kind of sealant or coating on top of the clear coat for leases? just curious)



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    -Cyan with FG400, Tangerine with SF4000.
    -Applying between 9-15 lbs of pressure on speed 4.5 for everything.
    -Doing 4-6 section passes for both compounding and polishing.
    -Paint is clayed and free of contaminants.

    From what I can tell, this clearcoat is pretty hard. Definitely harder than my 2007 Acura TL type-S's black pearl. I'm running into major dusting problems which I thought were less of a concern with this product as compared to the M105/M205 combo that I am accustomed to using. The working time seems to be significantly less than what I am used to as well. My pads are also pretty warm once I finish a section pass.

    Any critique or recommendations that you guys have based on what I have told you I am using between my GG, products, and method?

    I did the hood tonight and the results came out pretty good as far as I can tell. Here's some money shots. It's very difficult to see defects in this paint for some reason.



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    Re: Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 technique critique and dusting problems

    Hydrotech pads use closed cell foam. That means more product stays on the face of the pad, therefore, creating more dust.
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    Re: Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 technique critique and dusting problems

    Quote Originally Posted by FivePoint.0 View Post
    Hydrotech pads use closed cell foam. That means more product stays on the face of the pad, therefore, creating more dust.
    Thanks, this makes sense. Guess I will have to figure out a good way to deal with the dust before sealing.

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    I would definitely rewash the car before sealing. Plus, you want to remove any polishing oils/fillers so you can get the best bonding.
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    Re: Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 technique critique and dusting problems

    Thanks for the suggestions, I'm just worried about reintroducing new swirls and scratches into the paint upon drying after freshly polishing.

    Do you have experience with the above Menzerna products or the GG buffer?

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    Re: Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 technique critique and dusting problems

    M105 dusts really bad with my gg polisher too. I just IPA wipe down everything good before I seal including the windows
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    Re: Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 technique critique and dusting problems

    Try using Wolfgang total swirl remover and the finishing glaze. They creat little to no dust at all and actually polish better than m105/205 combo
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    Re: Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 technique critique and dusting problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Nate3420 View Post
    M105 dusts really bad with my gg polisher too. I just IPA wipe down everything good before I seal including the windows
    I don't like doing an IPA wipe down after polishing because it's grabby. Unless the manufacturer recommends that you do a chemical stripping, I don't do it.

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    Re: Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 technique critique and dusting problems

    I'm not using the M105/205 combo. I'm using the Menzerna FG400 and SF4000 combo which I thought would have less dusting than the M105/205 combo. Perhaps I'm doing too many passes since the FG400 has diminishing abrasives or maybe I'm just moving too fast or using too fast of a speed.

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    Re: Menzerna FG400 & SF4000 technique critique and dusting problems

    Quote Originally Posted by JJH View Post
    I don't like doing an IPA wipe down after polishing because it's grabby. Unless the manufacturer recommends that you do a chemical stripping, I don't do it.
    If you are using quality microfibers you shouldn't have to worry about adding and swirls back in or marring your paint. Never have had any problems with adding problems back into the paint with an IPA using quality microfibers. It's your best chance of optimum bonding
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